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    Gaieus
    last edited by 30 Jan 2009, 16:52

    "Model appearance"

    Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

    favicon

    (sketchup.google.com)

    Gai...

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      plot-paris
      last edited by 30 Jan 2009, 17:52

      cool. thanks for pointing us to the page. πŸ‘

      I am really happy about this change in Google's behaviour by doing these surveys on a regular basis. it really shows that they are interested in our opinion. a great thing to do, really.

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        solo
        last edited by 30 Jan 2009, 18:35

        • Thinking out loud *

        If Google are really interested in our opinion and customer service wouldn't it be great if they would engage us regarding to all the higher poly concerns we have instead of ignoring them?

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          Stinkie
          last edited by 30 Jan 2009, 18:45

          I'm wondering whether I should read something in the fact they didn't include the option "make SU handle more poly's". πŸ˜‰

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            remus
            last edited by 30 Jan 2009, 18:47

            It is a 'model appearance' survey, so i wouldnt expect more technical stuff to appear in it...

            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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              Gaieus
              last edited by 30 Jan 2009, 18:48

              @unknownuser said:

              I'm wondering whether I should read something in the fact they didn't include the option "make SU handle more poly's". πŸ˜‰

              That would be in a past survey.

              Gai...

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                Stinkie
                last edited by 30 Jan 2009, 19:11

                Really? Good thing, that. Still, I'm not gonna sit around 'til our friends in Boulder make SU a bit more sturdy, as it may prove to be a long wait. I've been trying to come up with a 'SketchUp 2 modo' workflow that allows me to get the most out of both apps (with regards to my needs, that is). So far, it's looking promising. Wee!

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                  solo
                  last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 02:52

                  @unknownuser said:

                  One of the questions is to have a built-in render engine

                  Kerkythea, Podium and IDX folks holding their breaths in anticipation of being bought out.

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    kwistenbiebel
                    last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 03:08

                    As a survey never can be a bad idea, I truely think this one is not really relevant.

                    One of the questions is to have a built-in render engine.
                    Off course not! We have all the High end render engines for that. Why would we want to go through a development cycle of several years while we already have the gems?

                    Google, make your nifty little piece of software 'high poly' capable and think about the rest after that.

                    And another thing: a 'model appearance' survey? Where is the checkbox for FIXING THE SHADOW BUG !!!

                    Aaaargh! When was that raid on Boulder scheduled?

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                      Phil Rader AIA
                      last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 04:02

                      @kwistenbiebel said:

                      Where is the checkbox for FIXING THE SHADOW BUG !!!

                      Aaaargh! When was that raid on Boulder scheduled?

                      let's just find a way to sneek Carmaks Revearse into the code and only those who need to know the secret will know how to unlock it.

                      http://www.philrader.com

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                        kwistenbiebel
                        last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 04:04

                        Good idea πŸ˜„
                        Easter eggs in the SU code.

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                          linea
                          last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 07:44

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Kerkythea, Podium and IDX folks holding their breaths in anticipation of being bought out

                          I really hope that that doesn't happen. I'd rather that Google spend their budget by employing all the ruby programmers in the community.

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                            bigstick
                            last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 09:19

                            Regarding the high poly support (or responsiveness when manipulating large models), I'm encouraged by this from the most recent SketchUpdate newsletter:-

                            "Even though we launched SketchUp 7 late last year, most of us are plugging away to make it even better – stay tuned for an update sometime in the next several weeks"

                            CraigD hinted at some stuff a while back (can't remember the post and too lazy to find it), which also makes me a little more relaxed about the issue.

                            I would also like to prod Google's collective memory about a facility to temporarily DISABLE THE %$*&Β£!Β§ INFERENCING ENGINE - PLEASE! This is driving me mad and I actually prefer the old inferencing instead.

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                              kwistenbiebel
                              last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 09:45

                              Hey that sounds like good news Bigstick! πŸ‘

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                                Edson
                                last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 09:52

                                it could be a good thing to alert SCF members of every SKP survey. this way we good vote massively and have our opinions heard by them.

                                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                  remus
                                  last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 09:54

                                  @kwistenbiebel said:

                                  And another thing: a 'model appearance' survey? Where is the checkbox for FIXING THE SHADOW BUG !!!

                                  Thats probably the one that says 'improve shadow rendering.'

                                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                    Mr S
                                    last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 10:35

                                    Hi Guys,

                                    I'm afraid I got back on my hobby horse again.

                                    In the additional comments, I said:

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Fix the damn shadow "bug" that makes the animation capabilities of SketchUp useless.

                                    What is the point of being able to create animations if you have to switch off shadows because of the awful flickering that occurs?

                                    This has has been allowed to go on for far too long.
                                    Google, stop being evil, and fix what is a terrible flaw in a great program.

                                    Will anyone listen?
                                    I won't hold my breath.

                                    Regards
                                    Mr S

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                                      Anssi
                                      last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 12:55

                                      I understood from the latest SketchUpDate newsletter that a maintenance release is near.

                                      Anssi

                                      securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                        Gaieus
                                        last edited by 31 Jan 2009, 14:40

                                        @anssi said:

                                        I understood from the latest SketchUpDate newsletter that a maintenance release is near.

                                        Anssi

                                        Yep, those words definitely seem to refer to a maintenance release.

                                        Gai...

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                                          plot-paris
                                          last edited by 2 Feb 2009, 11:18

                                          I think this survey is perfectly sensible. they just want to know how people think. lets hope most people agree with us, that rendering should remain a third party business. but I think it is the right think of Google to ask.

                                          besides, I would really appreciate some development of native SketchUp graphics, like , yes, improving shadows (which could mean fixing the shadow bug as well as introducing some form of softer shadows and especially differentiation of shadows when hitting/being cast by transparent surfaces)

                                          and their suggestion of having a multiple textures feature would be absolutely awesome (and has been asked for quite a lot in the past).

                                          and something like roughness for transparent materials would be absolutely marvellous to create some sort of frosted glass effect (can definitely be done in real time, since windows does it).

                                          and some way of introducing a simple glossiness to materials would be great as well (so that not all materials are dull and opaque but can have a little shine (e.g. car paint).

                                          all these things would make SU output a lot nicer, without really entering the realm of rendering...

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