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    • J Offline
      jstanton8869
      last edited by

      Complete list of new features is now up

      Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

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      (sketchup.google.com)

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        remus
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        @unknownuser said:

        great,.. we got the new hyper-announcement promoting Sketchup 7 blatantly, and guess what,.. we can't post to disagree with things like...

        Might i enquire as to what you were posting about there, if not to disagree.

        @unknownuser said:

        Snap out of it ,... only a fraction of people use Layout, (and will ever use it) people need editing freedom that Layout can't provide!
        I still have not seen a proper layout presentation, in the years since the first release of Layout, but I've seen many more that a couple using the CAD->Sketchup->Photoshop workflow, that include character, wow-factor, and individuality. I never managed to see Layout in this picture or produce these outcomes as much as I tried.

        I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss layout, especially for a more technical level of presentation.

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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          herodes
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          @pixero said:

          @unknownuser said:

          New Ruby APIs have been added.

          Anyone found out what they are?

          The only thing I found is this which leads to nowhere...
          http://code.google.com/more/#products-apis-sketchup

          I'd suggest going to the What's New in this Release page and answer 'No' in the 'Was this information helpful?' bit at the end with the excuse that 'It's unclear'!

          %(#BFBFBF)[http://arhitektonas.blogspot.com
          I know me,... I am that guy...
          ]

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            lewiswadsworth
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            Remus, even with the advancements Layout is a toy. My architecture students have nearly universally preferred Google Docs' simple "Presentation" application to Layout for any number of perfectly valid reasons besides simple stability, and no firm I have worked with uses anything less than Illustrator or InDesign for formal document preparation or Powerpoint or Flash for presentation.

            The manpower/hours should have been spent on the core application.

            col sporcar si trova

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            • bagateloB Offline
              bagatelo
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              I think that with those dynamic blocks will be possible easily to create parametric blocks, that with certainty would be possible to imitate Revit.

              Then don't disrespect that progress in the sketchup. I also think if those interface of dynamic blocks will be available by script ruby, then his power will be unimaginable.

              While the cat's away, the mice will play

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                lewiswadsworth
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                Try it.

                I've always considered spreadsheet algebra (which is what constrains the DCs) to be one of those tasks associated with a part of architecture that I simply do not want to be a part of...the bookkeeping, schedule-writing, soul-sucking part.

                Well, I'm off to learn something else.

                col sporcar si trova

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                  Panga
                  last edited by

                  After reading all posts here, and the updated "What's new" page, even if some good work is done in this release...i just feel disapointed...for all the reasons that the community already spoke about (hi-poly, shadows...)

                  I'm afraid that Google is considering sketchup more than an add-on for google earth than a real independant and powerfull software. For me, all the updates are just to get the modelling a little easier, but are not real new features...this is just my feeling.

                  Hope this will evolve in the future.

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                    DavidBoulder
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                    @lewiswadsworth said:

                    Remus, even with the advancements Layout is a toy. My architecture students have nearly universally preferred Google Docs' simple "Presentation" application to Layout for any number of perfectly valid reasons besides simple stability, and no firm I have worked with uses anything less than Illustrator or InDesign for formal document preparation or Powerpoint or Flash for presentation.

                    Its worth looking at Layout again. I don't believe their time was wasted in developing advancements to Layout. FYI - with the vector or hybrid export you can open PDF's in Illustrator to change,hide or alter the appearances. Which gives you amazing control of line styles and weights. Complex patter brushes, artistic brushes, dashed lines, etc.

                    FYI - even with Layout ver1 I created 40 pages SD documents. Sure it was pushing Layout ver1 pretty far and I had to be patient. But this workflow saved me tons of time by avoiding going to Photoshop and InDesign.

                    --

                    David Goldwasser
                    OpenStudio Developer
                    National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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                      remus
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                      Lewis, you dont have to bother entering any data if you dont want to, you can just just download other things people have made.

                      I think its also worth considering the fact that if you do start making dynamic components you only have to do it once, its not like your typing in spreadsheet values to define your models.

                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                        linea
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                        Firstly I was wrong about Layout, vector output works, I've been experimenting with it at work today. It has come a long way and is much closer to where it should be. But for me cad paperspace will still be necessary for substantial projects.

                        Secondly, 7 isn't what alot of us expected but I'm sure (nearly) all of us agree that SU is still great, and our reasons that we use it probably go way beyond the software:

                        1 This Community. Without wanting to sound like an idiot, I feel that this community is the real owner of Sketchup.

                        2 Autodesk don't own SU. If @Last had sold out to them, SU would probably have been shelved straight away and I'd be still staring at a black Autocad screen 10 hours a day.

                        3 What the future has to hold for SU and it's users. Although it would have been nice to feel we had got a bit further with 7!

                        But I couldn't turn away from SU. Well done Google, sorry for the ranting.

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                          Aernoud
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                          I think it is great!, but one question, can i re - install plugins? Or are these (suchs as Whaat's subsmooth)plugins only for SU 6 ?

                          Currently SU project:

                          • Metroid Prime large leviathan (own design)
                          • Metroid prime plasma turret (own design)
                          • Metroid prime Armour clubber (own design)
                          • The Minas Tirith project
                          • Mobile phone (own design)
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                            remus
                            last edited by

                            I think there was a few problems with a few plugins, but for the most part old plugins should work fine with 7. Just copy and paste them across from your SU 6 folder.

                            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                              Burkhard
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                              Mostly they were tested and should work.
                              Rubys which have their own installation routine should changed manualy...or try to copy the content directly from SU6 into SU7

                              [http://www.ia-plus.de(http://www.ia-plus.de)]

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                                bjanzen
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                                @linea said:

                                Layout is still raster though isn't it? The ability to draw a 0.1 line in Layout would have been great, I cant really see how I can drop cad for Layout yet, much as I'd like to. Or am I missing something?

                                1. If you have LayOut, you should be able to find the "Vector" pulldown.
                                2. LayOut, in it's current implementation, is not meant to replace cad.

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQFFgO0KaQ0 lists the three top reasons to use LayOut.

                                Barry

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                                  sintra
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Sigh. Where is Alan Fraser? He will tell you a thing or two about speeding up your models. He knows because he's a tree man, and when you dump about two dozen of his Comps into a scene you'll feel that need for multi-core real bad. Unless of course you apply some out-of-the-box thinking.

                                  But why should we when there is technology available 😒

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  One of SketchUp's lead developers, John Bacus, has actually asked users at Basecamp exactly what this means. High poly support when orbiting, when modeling, with or without inference.
                                  You see everybody whining about this feature but no one comes with any specifics and when they are asked for them no one replies. So by all means, SPECIFY what you mean with high poly support.

                                  My models tend to be large ones, models of residential developments with trees, shrubs cars etc etc. when it takes about 1 minute or so to orbit or zoom in or out and the screen freezers up, and i have my boss or a client looking at the screen its more than frustrating. its time this was sorted or at least commented on by someone from sketchup i think they owe us a reasonable responce.

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                                    silver_shadow
                                    last edited by

                                    holy crap!! this is post is total sketchup war! Never thought today will turn out like this 👊
                                    hee hee they should actually change the topic lol

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                                      fakircho
                                      last edited by

                                      Maybe this would not have been such an issue if it was not kept so secret. Even Apple does not keep things in the dark like this. There are rumors, there is hype generated and we had none of that. Now people are feeling disappointed.
                                      I remember when @last gave us a hint about upcoming Sandbox tools, by posting a picture of toy truck in sand box 😄

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                                        linea
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        total sketchup war!

                                        Now there's a plug-in I'd like to see. Whaat!

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                                          free agent
                                          last edited by

                                          Your on a roll Coen, why to knock em down 🤣

                                          you gotta love sketchup 👍

                                          http:i167.photobucket.comalbumsu143FreeAgent84bug.gif

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                                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                            Mike Lucey
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            great,.. we got the new hyper-announcement promoting Sketchup 7 blatantly, and guess what,.. we can't post to disagree with things like

                                            @mike lucey said:

                                            I think Layout has now grown up and will be adopted by many
                                            professionals with a need to communicate their design ideas
                                            to clients.
                                            Snap out of it ,... only a fraction of people use Layout, (and will ever use it) people need editing freedom that Layout can't provide!
                                            I still have not seen a proper layout presentation, in the years since the first release of Layout, but I've seen many more that a couple using the CAD->Sketchup->Photoshop workflow, that include character, wow-factor, and individuality. I never managed to see Layout in this picture or produce these outcomes as much as I tried.

                                            PS: I'd be very positive about this release if it weren't to cost me anything to upgrade.
                                            I suppose being beta testers you have the new version for free. Then you try to convince the rest of the people that the new release is ok. That sucks where I am from.

                                            George,

                                            Of course you can disagree as much as you please. Whatever gave you
                                            the idea that you could not?

                                            As regards Layout2, have you actually spent any time checking out the
                                            new version?

                                            In the past, Beta Testers have been given an upgrade license and sometimes
                                            even a T-Shirt after spending quite a few hours / days testing the product.
                                            On the other hand GSU got this version down pat in a very stable edition
                                            and their was little to complain about, not withstanding the obvious missing
                                            items.

                                            I'm not trying to convince anyone that V7 is okay. All I'm saying is that it
                                            might be a good idea to give things a good work out before ranting on and
                                            on and on and on. We all fully realise what is not there and should be!

                                            George, I really think you are working yourself up far too much. Its like
                                            things have not turned out exactly like you wished and you are striking
                                            out against Google and now me 👊 . Am I not entitled to have my
                                            opinion and advise members?

                                            Please tell me what is the point in copying your correspondence with other
                                            3D software developers? This also go for others that are threatening to
                                            move to other software. If this is what you guys have in mind just go
                                            ahead and do it and let the rest of us get on with SketchUp V7 and not
                                            to forget LayOut2 👍

                                            Mike

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