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    • RE: New iMac Recommendations- where to spend the $$

      @unknownuser said:

      I'd do the CPU upgrade. That'll help with both SU and rendering so it's money well spent.

      I'd pass on the GPU upgrade. I don't think you'll see any difference at all unless she's also interesting in playing Skyrim on that PC.

      That doesn't make any sense, because you can't 'just upgrade' the CPU and not the GPU on a Mac. You do both at the same time.

      FWIW, she'll see a massive difference because of the swap from 32bit to 64bit, even if, yes, SU still only works in 32bit, because the rest of the OS is running in 64bit. πŸ˜„

      Again there is the jump in buss speed too, as well as the machine being able to deal with up to 32gb's of RAM. (The older machines would only go as high as 2 or 3 gb's).

      πŸ˜„

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    • RE: New iMac Recommendations- where to spend the $$

      Core Duo? Is that the CoreDuo or the Core2Duo?

      The former was only 32bit- the latter being 64bit. Also the older Macs only had a maximum of 2 or 3 gigs of RAM and the buss speed was quite slow (667MHz- compared to today's 1333MHz)

      Also the old iMac had pretty awful built in graphic cards (Intel GMA). Not that good.

      Any upgrade you will notice a vast increase in speed/performance. And as for that huge screen? Everyone loves a huge screen!

      If you've got the money, go for it. Why not? πŸ˜„

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    • RE: Did a God or Gods create the universe? EDITED

      @alan fraser said:

      Personally, I'm with Descartes; it's all a dream...however real it might appear to be. πŸ˜‰

      The Rebbe would have some interesting thoughts about that!

      @unknownuser said:

      *It is liberating, this knack we have to discover what works before
      understanding how.

      Certainly, it is nice to know the β€œhow.” When you know and understand,
      you can immerse your entire mind and heart into the matter.

      But when you experience that which you do not yet understand, there is
      surprise and there is wonder. For that moment, you are swept away and
      lifted out of your little world. You taste firsthand that, yes, there
      is truly a reality that exists beyond my own mind and heart.*

      ➑ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebbe

      πŸ˜‰

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    • RE: Did a God or Gods create the universe? EDITED

      @unknownuser said:

      @krisidious said:

      ... until there is more proof, the only honest religion is the agnostic one.

      The Dyslexic Agnostic Insomniac sits up all night wondering if there really is a DOG.

      I thought it was "The Schizophrenic Dyslexic Agnostic Insomniac sits up all night wondering if there really is a DOG"?

      πŸ˜†

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    • Bull***t!!!!!!

      [flash=850,688:y9jrrksj]http://www.youtube.com/v/9U4Ha9HQvMo?s=1&hl=en_GB&fs=1&&[/flash:y9jrrksj]

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @alan fraser said:

      Another advantage of smoking is that it kills the desire for sleep, so that you can still post to the forum well into the wee small hours of the morning....like Mike. πŸ˜‰

      I don't know there Alan....

      I used to sleep better after a fag or two in the evening... πŸ˜†

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @daniel said:

      I've never engaged in any risky behavior to "fit in," so I find the concept hard to understand. But I see it all the time, especially young adults. And not just with cigarettes. With illicit drug use. I've never heard of drug addiction having a positive effect on someone's life, yet people still do it. I just don't understand, when there is so much information out there explaining how damaging a behavior is, why anyone would engage in it, especially when the "benefits" seem negligable in comparison.

      Daniel, that's absolutely fine to think that, and your opinions are shared by tens of thousands of others worldwide.

      However,

      It doesn't give you, or all those others the right to tell another adult that they should or shouldn't be doing it. Right?

      People should be given the freedom to form their own opinions rather having someone else decide what they think for them. No matter what evidence or breach of human rights those self appointed decision makers may throw up against them or against their case. πŸ˜„

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @daniel said:

      Tom, in general, I don't drink. Even most wines taste bitter, to me. I usually have one cup of coffee first thing in the morning, but can go without (usually do, when traveling or visiting friends/family, as I find the brown water they make and call coffee unpleasant). Since I spend too much time behind a computer, I work out with a trainer usually twice a week for my health. Neither of those have the unpleasant (to me) side affects that cigarettes do, though.

      You mention that smoking had a calming effect, but did you know thta when you first started smoking? What convinced you to take it up in the first place?

      I started smoking when I was 13. The classic cliche- round the back of the bike shed at school. It's true! πŸ˜†

      The first cigarettes made me feel really sick, and I quit pretty quickly. It was really a pose more than anything- to look "grown up" and to fit in I suppose? I started again when I was 27. Again so I could fit in, but more because I was bored, or they gave me the perfect excuse to 'have a break'. But that's besides the point. Everyone has their own reasons why they smoke, but it's not up to the state to tell you what you can and can't do. Yes the state can advise, but it should never intervene. Ever.

      My point in the original questions about coffee, exercise and alcohol was that they all make the body release endorphins that make you feel good. Cigarettes do the same- if you've smoked for long enough that is.

      I like my coffee with cream (double and thick). I get the most funny expressions from people when I ask for it (because it is now food that our government are trying to control- heard of Jamie Oliver?! Say no more! lol! ). Starbucks make the best takeout coffee imo. πŸ˜„

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    • RE: SketchUp 8 M2 is out!

      It's the "better ruby script installer" which lights up my world. This will make SketchUp a far more friendly tool for those in the classroom! For once I can start getting kids and teachers to install plugins without having to get all technical with them! β˜€

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @alan fraser said:

      Tom, it's perfectly apparent that you think everything is to do with 'mud huts'...even if it involves being staunchly anti-capitalist on one thread and supporting and promoting the profits and exploitative practices of some of the most powerful corporations on earth...like British American Tobacco on another. Citing alternate forms of smoking is pointless. That's not the reality; that's not what is being pushed by the tobacco companies. It will never amount to anything other than a niche market.

      I don't see why? You run a niche cottage industry business don't you? What's so different?

      And on the contrary, I am not anti-capitalist. In fact I'm very much the opposite! However some of the worlds biggest and most powerful environmental organisations are quite capable of using the power of emotional manipulation to make their point. In reality they are no different either.

      @alan fraser said:

      You can fantasise all you like about other possible causes, but in the case of Roy Castle, if someone who has never smoked in his life is found to have lungs half-full of tobacco tar you have to stand reason on its head to argue anything other than secondary smoke inhalation. Similarly with my grandfather; I'll take the word of the oncologists who treated him over your speculations, if you don't mind.

      Sure, I don't blame you. I mean I am not qualified to tell you what your grandfather died from, but at least, considering his job, have an open mind about it. Hundreds of people die from lung cancer each year, who have never smoked in their lives. The circumstances of their fate also doesn't necessarily mean that they have died as a direct result of passive smoking either.

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      Hi Daniel.

      I don't smoke now, but I used to.

      Do you drink whiskey? Do you drink coffee? Do you run or take other exercise?

      I hated the smell that cigarettes used to leave on my breath and especially my clothes, and there is nothing worse than coming back from being out on the town for the night in your best clothes, and they all stink of saltpetre and ash.

      But smoking used to have quite a calming effect on me. I used to be able to think much more clearly. I also remember having a better memory!

      There are new types of ways of taking tobacco- you can suck it- as is in the case of snuss in Sweden, or you can now vapourise it- which doesn't actually burn anything, thus making the pleasure pretty much harmless. Yet the anti-smoking lobby are also trying to ban these now- which is preposterous. What I would like to know is why?

      Another previous poster pointed out a very important point....

      @clarencecat said:

      Surely this is all about OUR freedom, all of us to make our own choice. Why can't there be smoking bars, there were non smoking bars before the ban.
      Who are these people who want to treat us like children?

      Spot on! It IS about our freedom. No one it seems, can be trusted any more. πŸ˜’

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @unknownuser said:

      you know, fall asleep with a lit cigarette and set your house on fire.. do that here and you set a hundred people's house on fire

      Serves you right for building your houses out of wood! πŸ˜’ πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

      When I lived in America, I saw one guy in Seattle, in the 1980's extinguish his cigarette using the petrol from a petrol pump! However contrary to popular belief, it's the fumes from petrol that are inflammable, not petrol in its liquid state. Cigarettes actually burn at a very low temparature (well low enough not to cause ignition). This could possibly explain why more house are now being set on fire? (Cigs are now designed to burn within 70 seconds?- crazy!)

      Despite there being strong evidence that there is a link between smoking and lung cancer (although you're on really in the danger zone apparently if you smoke 40+ a day), there is still very little evidence of a link between passive smoking and cancer. I've even found that in America, an independent study found that smoking under 10 cigarettes a day, may even be beneficial to your health! 😲

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    • RE: Damn, this is a good cup of coffee.

      'work' is a four letter word. πŸ˜‰

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @alan fraser said:

      It has nothing to do with keeping people in 'mud huts'.
      It has everything to do with tobacco companies switching their focus to 3rd World countries who are too poor to resist...after smoking restrictions were introduced in the West.
      Link.

      I'm sorry Alan, but I think it has everything to do with 'mud huts'.

      And while it is probable that 98% of lung cancer 'may' caused by smoking, other factors caused by nitrosamines and acrylamides come into play. These can be from frying bacon, cooking chips or even drinking beer. Actually, all the things the British Food Standards Agency love to hate, and love to preach to us what and what not to eat or smoke.

      But what you haven't taken into account is that I was talking about smoking tobacco replacement therapies such as gum, pills and vapourisation. With 'vaping' there is no evidence whatsoever that there is any carcinogenic risks involved. So with that, why are we stopping Africans from harvesting tobacco for alternative enjoyment?

      @alan fraser said:

      Roy Castle's death due to secondary inhalation is not 'coincidence'. It was a proven fact and was a major factor in the establishment of the Roy Castle Lung Cancer Foundation. The fact that Herbie Hancock has survived is down to luck and genetics...as in the case of my grandmother who smoked profusely into old age. My grandfather on the other hand...a burly longshoreman who used to roll his own...died in his 50's weighing only 6 stone (84 lb)

      It was a proven "fact"? Where?

      In the case of your own parents and my grand parents don't you see any paradoxes? Your grandfather being a "longshoreman" who died in his 50's? What from smoking? Or perhaps via the passing of tonnes and tonnes of other environmentally hazardous chemicals and substances later found out to be highly detrimental to human health?

      While there are many reports that clearly show that smoking can be highly detrimental to your health (I, for one have already given up, and feel so much better for it too), there is still very little evidence to show that passive smoking actually causes cancer. In the case of the Roy Castle Lung Cancer Foundation, I completely unsurprised that there is an emphasis on any kind of smoking causing cancer because by their very nature, the Roy Castle Lung Cancer Foundation are a charity, and charities need to survive by attracting funders, and if you argue that disease caused by passive smoking hasn't really a leg to stand on, then you are going to turn away many possible investors? It would also be interesting to know who that list of investors are as well. (ASH or the WHO maybe?)

      My basic gripe, and don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of smoking- but I've seen so many great businesses go down the pan because the smoking ban has had the opposite effect rather than the desired one, my basic gripe is being nannied by the state to be told what I can think and what I can't in the name of "The Science", where actually there is very little science/evidence to support the claim.

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @tobobo said:

      A TV presenter called Roy Castle never smoked a day in his life and he died of lung cancer. In his early career he played trumpet in working men's clubs and pubs. The large lungfuls of air he had to take to play, meant breathing in loads of send hand smoke.

      It means nothing. It's just coincidence, an example loved by pressure groups such as ASH to win points.

      Both grandfathers of my wife, both lived to 99 and 101. Both smoked all their lives. In fact one of them also drank a glass of Vodka everyday too!

      Herbie Hancock has probably played in more smoky nightclubs than Roy has had hot dinners! Herbie's now 71 and he's still going strong!

      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mq-dKm343sw/SqraYK2NmII/AAAAAAAADnU/8huooVfdjuo/s400/herbie_hancock.jpg

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @bep said:

      Something to read http://www.who.int/tobacco/en/

      Well waddaya know! "WHO opens Centre for Tobacco Control in Africa". It's that word "Africa" again. πŸ˜’ Keep 'em all in mud huts say the World Health Organisation! πŸ˜’

      This is all getting rather predictable......

      @unknownuser said:

      Tobacco is one of the major contributors to NCDs - heart attacks, strokes, cancers, diabetes, asthma and other chronic diseases together account for 63% of all deaths worldwide. In the 46 countries of the WHO African Region, noncommunicable diseases are expected to increase by 27% in the next decade and will account for more than 50% of all deaths by 2030.

      Is that so? What about 'vaping' or taking in the form of Snuss?? The above only really applies to smoking tobacco! Of course America is still allowed to grow it, for manufacture in use of Electronic cigarettes and the like as well as anti-smoking products? πŸ˜’

      I hope these zany human-loving philanthropists Bill and Melissa have clear consciences? πŸ˜’ 🀒

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    • RE: Mac help

      @mwm5053 said:

      I'm using a MacPro w/ OS X 10.6.8 and do you think upgrading to Lion is worth it?

      For Β£20? Most certainly!

      And put as much memory as you can afford in it too. πŸ’­

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @unknownuser said:

      @tfdesign said:

      Individuals should be allowed to make their own minds up whether they can smoke or not.

      No-one is telling smokers they aren't allowed to smoke. They (we-I smoke) aren't allowed to smoke in certain places. The difference between these two concepts is hardly a subtle one.

      As for making one's mind up for oneself - that's precisely what smoking bans allow for.

      Erm.... not according to the BMA! They want you to stop smoking in your own car. Even if you are the only person driving it!!!

      @unknownuser said:

      The toxic levels that can quickly build up inside a car are up to 23 times the levels found in a smoky bar, the BMA says. Children (passengers in this context) absorb such toxins faster than adults and may also acquire the smoking habit. Some 80,000 people a year still die of smoking-related illnesses in Britain. The figures are awful.

      ➑ http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/nov/16/banning-smoking-cars-authoritarian-solution

      The real problem though, is that the evidence is unfounded!;

      @unknownuser said:

      We traced the evolution of this β€œmyth turned fact” to emphasize that only credible evidence should be presented to advance policy. Solid evidence has been the foundation of the progress made in tobacco control in recent decades. The biggest danger of inaccurately interpreting research on smoking in cars for the sake of a snappy media sound bite is to lose favour with an overwhelmingly supportive public and to provide ammunition for opponents of tobacco control.

      We recommend that researchers and organizations stop using the 23 times more toxic factoid because there appears to be no evidence for it in the scientific literature. Instead, advocates of smoking bans in cars should simply state that exposure to second-hand smoke in cars poses a significant health risk and that vulnerable children who cannot remove themselves from this smoky environment must be protected. Further, we recommend citing the 2006 study by Rees and Connelly 34 as reliable evidence that the level of particulate matter found in cars where smoking is allowed exceeds that in the safety guidelines of the US Environmental Protection Agency, particularly for children.

      Again, really worth a read! πŸ‘

      ➑ http://www.cmaj.ca/content/182/8/796

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    • RE: Do you smoke?

      @gaieus said:

      Toby, I completely agree with the protection of non-smokers. However with today's technology, a pub or bar can be equipped with a ventilation system that should get all the smoke out of the air. Or why not allow separate rooms at least?

      I agree 100% with this. It's how it should have been in the first place. It's been really enlightening reading these pieces by Joe Jackson on this blog;

      A smoker's guide to Europe and beyond (part one)

      &

      A smoker's guide to Europe and beyond (part two)

      @tobobo said:

      One of the reasons for tha ban in the UK was the allow non-smokers to be in pubs and clubs with out risking cancer or posioning.

      Well yes, if there actually was any evidence to support this claim...?!;

      @unknownuser said:

      *Dr Ken Denson, a medical professional who is prepared say what others only think, puts it more bluntly: "The ill effects of passive smoking are still intuition rather than scientific fact... All in all, the medical evidence for any deleterious effect of passive smoking is extremely tenuous and it is unlikely that it would ever stand up in a court of law."

      A recent report by the International Agency for Research on Cancer reveals that, "In total, 23 studies have been published on [workplace] exposure to secondhand smoke. Only one reported a statistically significant association between exposure to secondhand smoke at the workplace and risk for lung cancer." One out of 23 is usually dismissed as a rogue result.

      Since then, further evidence has been published by the BMJ. In March 2005 it offered fresh data suggesting that passive smoking may kill 11,000 people a year in the UK. The crucial word is "may". If there is a direct causal link between secondary smoking and lung cancer it is so tiny that dedicated campaigners have struggled to identify it. Scotland's Green Party, hardly a promoter of smoking, recently alleged that more Scots are killed by exhaust fumes than by secondary smoke.*

      ➑ http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/passive-smoking-is-there-convincing-evidence-that-its-harmful-476472.html

      As for poisoning? Poisoning from what? The governments lack of direction only intending to appease the populate simply to get re-elected? πŸ˜†

      OT: 'Steppin' Out' by Joe Jackson (one of my all time fave singles!)

      [flash=850,688:1143yeki]http://www.youtube.com/v/dopneKcyNXU?s=1&hl=en_GB&fs=1&&[/flash:1143yeki]

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    • RE: V5 Beta MOI 3D on MAC / PC April 2022 !

      X11 is good. It's just a bit ugly. But if you strip away all of the nice bits of OSX, the gui looks like X11 anyway.

      UGS NX7 for Mac runs in X11.

      Autocad at least is native. πŸ˜„

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