Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Andrew!
Another reason you didn't mention is that an update of SketchUp might legitimately overwrite any part of the /Applications/SketchUp XXXX/SketchUp.app folder. Anything a user puts there is at risk of being lost!
Steve
@arail1 said:
@frederik said:
@arail1 said:
Why is it important to have exact curves? - because it's the basis for enormous amounts of basic geometry.
Cheers, Arail11...
I understand much better now...Although I use SU on a daily basis for the business I work within (mechanical/engineering) I haven't had the need to use exact curves...
For me SU is a 3D application, where I can visualize how things can be put together...
For me it's accurate enough, but I can see businesses where exact curves are needed...Thanks for enlighten me...
I'm probably more aware of the issue than you are because I work 'in between' autocad and SU. Consequently I have to jump through several unnecessary hoops multiple times during the day - I make x marks at the centers of circles and arcs in AutoCad because SU wouldn't otherwise be able to find the center, I extend any lines that touch curves in AutoCAD because when I export to SU those lines will be either short of the curve or extend minimally beyond it depending on where on the chord they fall. And then I have to do a lot of cleanup on the SU side. All because of the lack of curves which would seem to me to be on the top of necessary improvements going forward but the Boulder team obviously disagrees.
Have a good day.
I understand your need. However, I don't expect to see it implemented in SketchUp any time soon because it would require a fundamental redesign of how SketchUp works.
Today there is a 1-1 matchup between how Entities are represented in the model data and how they are drawn on the screen. That is, the internal data representation is all Edges and Faces, and (with some shading and texturing tricks) that is exactly what is drawn on the screen.
To get what you desire, they would have to break this 1-1 relationship so that the screen geometrical representation was dynamically calculated from an abstract mathematical geometry representation (e.g. center point and radius) every time the object was displayed. Obviously it's possible to do that, but it isn't how SketchUp was designed. So, a very major redesign and alteration of how SketchUp works would be needed.
The simplicity SketchUp gets from its approach is also a reason it is so much less expensive than true CAD programs.
Steve
@dave r said:
On my Mac the path is User/Lirary/Application Support/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Materials
Edit: Steve types faster.
too much virtual woodglue under your fingers 
@mwm5053 said:
I'm wanting to install all the seamless textures I've gottin here at SCF. So do I just make a Materials folder? I looked in MacHD / Application Support and User Application Support, found plugins folder but not much else no folders for Components, Styles , Resources. I skipped 2013 so this may have been covered but when I heard Shadows was faster had to give 2014 a run.
Thanks
I believe that SU will create the folder the first time you save a material. In any case it is
~/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Materials
Steve
@archidave said:
Do you know if this is still the case?
I'm trying to reload an rbs file to perform a live patch of some methods;Sketchup.load('file_path.rbs') returns 0 the first time, then false on subsequent calls, same as Sketchup::require
Is there a global equivalent to $" that SU stores the list of files in, that I can delete the file name from to force a reload?
thanks
SU 8.0 M2, Mac
$loaded_files
So the Alert shows that it caught the error, but evidently I don't know how to read out the message. BTW, I added that "Hello!" just because a blank dialog leaves me wondering if anything happened.
Steve
@Garry - You don't need SSL to address this. If you read the link I sent, there are ways to do it via javascript and server-side php. But if you don't want to do that, perhaps it would be enough just to trap the error and inform people that you don't support pre-10.8 versions of Mac OS X.
@Walt, could you try the attached version and see if it pops up an alert about the error? I just added an error handler to the javascript, but since I don't get the error I don't know whether it works 
Thanks
Steve
Garry,
To fix this you will either need to load the html from your site instead of from Ruby (so the document's domain is your domain) or try the xml content technique described in the reference I posted previously (which requires some server settings as well). Your code can make the domain less specific (e.g. strip www off http://www.cabmaker32.com), but it cannot make it more specific (e.g. change the null to anything else).
Steve
@mwm5053 said:
Evidently Inspect needs to open in Safari eo get Web Inp. to popup but here it is.
OK! My cross-domain security theory confirmed!
What's happening is that when the html is loaded directly, the document's domain is empty (null). The XMLHttpRequest security won't allow load from some other domain. I can verify that the domain is also empty on my Mavericks box, so this implies that they added a special case for null domain in the security rules after the WebKit version that comes with Lion (or perhaps modified the domain to be an empty string instead of null).
Steve
[edit] The typeof document.domain on my Mavericks box is a string, "". They fixed it so that a locally loaded html gets an empty string domain instead of null.
@mwm5053 said:
Ok this AM I had Safari open with Inspect Element open on a web page just to see what it did and opened SU and clicked on Web Dialog Test and right clicked on Connect to Website and Web Inspector popped up with this. Now what? I'll be here for a while then off to work for the day will check back.
Walt
That's more like it! I wonder what was wrong before...
Anyway, click on the console button and show me what it displays then. In particular, if there are any warning or error messages. The little red symbol at the bottom makes me think there was a error reported.
Steve
@mwm5053 said:
Ya not a very good typist sorry is this right
That appears to be right. Did it work?
I'm turning in for the night in a minute. Will check back tomorrow.
Steve
@mwm5053 said:
I don't understand why right click won't bring up Inspect Element?
Still typing the command wrong!
defaults write com.google.sketchuppro8 WebKitDeveloperExtras -bool true
^ ^
t space between Extras and -bool
[edit] Ack, that didn't format right! You left the t out of Extras and attached the - to its end instead of to the front of -bool.
@mwm5053 said:
I double checked the terminal and retyped and restated SU still no right click web inspector?
Missed it again! You typed com.google.sketchup8pro, it should be com.google.sketchuppro8
Steve
@d0n said:
Hi wanted to learn about making plugins and ran into a problem
How would i get information from a selected face? I want to use the X,Y,Z of a face inside a component.
somehow I can't get for the life of me get anything to work
Please provide more info about what you are trying to do. A Face is a planar surface bounded by a collection of Edges. Each Edge has two end Vertex3d locations, which have x,y,z positions, but there is no single x,y,z associated with a Face.
@mwm5053 said:
@ Steve When I right click in Connect to Website all I get is "Reload" but this is what Terminal looks like after pressing return in terminal was that right?
The Terminal screenshot looks as if you left off part of the command. Did you type the entire line
defaults write com.google.sketchuppro8 WebKitDeveloperExtras -bool true
I forgot to mention that before entering this command you should quit SketchUp and restart it afterward. Until the default takes hold the right-click menu will only contain "Reload".
Steve
@mwm5053 said:
Got the same error, sorry wish I could be of more help
Walt,
Do you have the WebKit inspector activated? If not, please open a Terminal window and type
defaults write <bundleid> WebKitDeveloperExtras -bool true
where you replace <bundleid> with:
com.google.sketchupfree8 for v8 Free
com.google.sketchuppro8 for v8 Pro (what your info says you have)
com.sketchup.SketchUp for 2013
After doing that, please run Garry's test script and while the WebDialog labeled "connect to website" is still open, right-click on it and select "Inspect Element" from the popup menu. This will open the WebKit Inspector. The GUI of the WebKit Inspector has changed with version, but look for something labeled "Console" and click it. Please let us know if the Console displays any error or warning messages.
Thanks
Steve
@garry k said:
Just to be sure - you downloaded the latest dialog_test.rb and line 10 now says:
@dlg.allow_actions_from_host( 'cabmaker32.com/' );
Trailing slash not needed. Just 'cabmaker32.com'
Garry,
You might want to try out some of the CORS methods described in this article:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTTP/Access_control_CORS
More thoughts: I don't think it is allow_actions_from_host. From what I looked up, that setting controls whether skp: callbacks are allowed from WebDialog contents loaded from a remote host. It is a sort of whitelist that gates whether skp: will work (and actually did nothing on OS X prior to Mavericks!). But clearly you are getting callbacks from javascript to Ruby ok. I still think it is most likely a change in handling of the AJAX cross-domain security in Lion vs later OS X. And I have no clue how to work around it 
@garry k said:
I'm not sure that there is an http error. A value of 0 suggests that the call did not go beyond the computer. This suggests that it is possible that it has something to do with cross-domain requests. However, Sketchup does have the allow_actions_from_host which was set. I thought allow_actions_from_host was specifically for that, in otherwords to reduce security risks by allowing 1 and 1 only external call.
What we could do is rem out the "loaded" part where we add the listener for DOMContentLoaded and replace that with a button and push the data to a hidden field.
Then there is but one call back going in one direction. Now if that doesn't work then we have ruled out this being an asynchronous timing thing.
Any thoughts?
Rambling thoughts...
I've become convinced that it is not an async timing problem. I also don't think it is an http error per-se, since those report three-digit codes (your javascript labels it an "http error", not the system). I suspect the request is being killed within the javascript library without ever going to the server. Have you checked the server logs to see whether they get traffic when Walt's system logs the error? My guess is no.
I didn't find any discussion about ways for client-side code to turn off the blocking of cross-domain requests,
only server-side headers that could be returned. It seems unlikely that there is a way for client code to disable the action, since that would make it essentially useless! What good is having a lock on the door if you provide a turn button to disengage it? So, I'd be surprised if SU's allow_actions_from_host defeats this particular security feature (or if it does, I'd like to know how - this is another of the poorly explained features of the API).
From what I read, at least on many web libraries, XMLHttpRequest has an onerror event handler you can set that may provide a description of what went wrong. Something like
xmlHttpRequest.onerror = function(e) {alert("request error; " + e.status.text)};
It may be that the error message also shows up on a javascript console, if people with the problem can get one open before running the plugin.
Steve