When I ran it with the Ruby Console open, there were no error messages and the Plugin worked just fine in both 2018 and 2019. Some kind of long-distance sorcery from you, no doubt. Thanks.

TIG:
What am I missing?? I've installed V5.0 and still can't get hipped roof to work in either 2018 or 2019 on my MacBook Pro. I've followed your Help instructions, but nothing seems to work. I can generate gable end and pyramids, but no hips or mansards. HELP!!

Okay guys, I know I must be missing something important here. I'm using a MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard, SU8 Pro. I've loaded, uninstalled, and reloaded CompoSpray 1.4.2 at least half a dozen times. It simply will not show up anywhere in my menus. It's in the correct Plug-Ins file, and I'm pretty sure there are no other installations anywhere else. I've used the plug-in before on a Windows PC, and I love it. I miss it. I want it.
HELP ME!!! Please!!

PS: I'm not a SketchUp newbie, but I'm also not a techie. I need plain English, simple words, pictures if possible. Thx.

Ray

I'm with Tina. The last one is the best, although I'd like to see what happens if you dial back the saturation a bit.

Don't get your knickers all in a knot, Susan. I most certainly wasn't talking about YOU!It was just a joke.

However, this does illustrate why Frederick's comment about why men shouldn't weigh in on these matters is so pertinent.

I beleive that, in general, any joke that's at the expense of one group or another are land mines for others who are not members of that group to comment on. (...on which for others to comment...?) As a black man, I can tell you that it's certainly true of jokes black people tell about themselves. In my own experience, it's also particularly true of jokes that women tell about themselves or about men. But then, I've never been particularly wise about knowing when to keep my mouth shut...

I think I saw that woman on a cruise I took a year or so ago...

Always model with it on, but turn it off when showing scenes or exporting for presentation. I'd lose track without it.

By the way, I actually used to look like this about thirty-five years ago...

@sorgesu said:

Hey ED! Thanks much. Would you ask them on my behalf? Thanks sooooo much in advance.

I should visit the Forums more often. I just now saw this. Do you still need the model?

If so, although I don't know anyone in particular at Ellerbee, I'll see what I can do.

Ed

Have you asked Ellerbee Becket? Who knows: they might be cooperative...

Ed

About respect for others:

Eleven years ago, I moved to the South after living in the North for the first 50 years of my life. A few years after I moved, I visited friends in my former home town. At lunch, they were remarkably rude, not only to the server, but also to each other. They treated the server as a "servant;" no "please," no "Thank you," just indifference. They talked all over each other, not allowing anyone to finish a thought.

I had to wonder, "Was I like that when I lived here?" I couldn't wait to get back to the South, where courtesy is the grease that lubricates almost all interactions, even though it's often false courtesy. Nevertheless, I can no longer imagine not saying please and thank you to someone who is doing me a service, no matter how small. A tip recognizes both good service and a pleasant and helpful attitude. I tip in proportion to how I am treated.

Susan:

Frequently, I travel for the Urban Land Institute. Here are their tipping guidelines based on what they're willing to reimburse:

Hotel Maid 1.00 per day
Doorman 1.00 per bag
Bellhops 1.00 per bag
Skycaps 1.00 per bag
Cab Drivers (luggage assist) 1.00 per bag, $1.00 minimum
Cab Drivers, no luggage 15%, minimum $1.00, rounded up to next dollar
Food a range of 15-20% of total depending upon service, 20% for large group (more than 5)

Any expenses such as spas are considered personal. In the past, I've tipped masseuses up to $20, depending on how posh the spa is.

My barber is self-employed and charges $14. I usually, but not always, throw in a couple of extra bucks, although when you think about it, she cuts about 4-5 heads an hour, is almost always busy all day, and therefore makes more money than I do! Hmmm...have to rethink that tipping thing...

I've never tipped for a shuttle that's provided by the hotel, but usually use the same 15% guideline if it's a private shuttle service.

Mostly, I decide what quality of service I received, then tip accordingly. If I know that, for example, the server is a struggling single mom, I'll ususally go a little higher. Or if it's someone I know I'll be seeing again (a couple of bartenders come to mind), I'm often a bit more generous.

So when will they start tipping architects?

Yeah, I've been playing a bit with Doyle's techniques as shown in the 3rd edition using photoshop over a SketchUp or hand-drawn base, and adding a little hand work. I'm not very facile with it yet, and haven't really had the time to spend on it that I'd like, but I do see the potential benefits of letting each tool do what it does best. I'm not a complete Luddite...

Susan:

When I was in school back in the year 1563, our graphics teacher (C.L. Martin, who really did "write the book") taught pencil, pen, watercolor, and tempera rendering techniques, using the same design (of our own) hand drawn on illustration boards. We practiced it all: shades and shadows, line control, textures and materials, and entourage.

Of all of it, the tempera gave people the most trouble. It's not in any way easy to manipulate in a way that looks believable or even professional. And although my hat's off to anyone who can use it well, I have a personal bias against the stiffness, overly bright colors, and infinite depth of field that most tempera renderings exhibit. Especially the stiffness. There's not much romance to it, and not much for the viewer to fill in through his or her own perceptions and imagination.

I think rendering is a two-way process of communication. While it often needs to portray the final appearance of a project, the best renderings do so while inviting the participation of the viewer, thus "selling" the project more effectively. No matter how hard-nosed and "business-like" the viewer thinks himself to be, I believe most people make decisions emotionally, then use
logic to ratify them. That's why I'm just no fan of PR.

Ray

Mike:

Add my voice to those urging Grant to return. His talent and inspiration are sorely missed.

Ray

Daniel:

Just for fun, have you considered adding some "reality" details such as leaves in the gutters, newspaper boxes at the curb, a fire hydrant, streetlights, trash receptacle, pigeons, and other such touches that will add some context and life?

It seems to me that photorealistic renderings so often portray buildings as objects, but don't really represent actual reality, which is often a little messy.

I know you did this rendering as a favor for a friend, and may not have time to work on it further.

It was an anxious time. The warning sirens started sounding at about 4PM here in downtown Memphis. First, torrential rain, then some pretty stiff wind. By six, the rain had stopped over downtown temporarily, as one storm line passed through. Another was still in Arkansas, headed this way.

Through the evening, TV news tracked the first storm as it spawned tornadoes across the eastern and southern suburbs of Memphis, and small towns in Tennessee and Mississippi. The city itself was mostly spared, although one older shopping mall in southeast Memphis was pretty well blasted.

No one had a comprehensive idea of the damage until this morning, and reports are still filtering in.

Like Susan, I went to the web for an image, but here's a near copy of my "8". Fourth, and best, Mazda I've owned, and the first brand new car I've owned in 25 years.

@tomsdesk said:

Ahhhh...the portrait in the attic. I had one of those but it must have fallen apart a couple of years ago...about the time the younger ones started calling that sparkle in my eyes "sir". :`)

Yeah, I hate it when that happens. However, it keeps me humble...

Tom:

Sounds like you have a good handle on things. I hope it all works out in your best benefit.

By the way, I'm 62. The picture is from about a year ago--I haven't any newer ones, but don't think I've changed much since then. The portrait in my attic is looking pretty bad, though...

Ray

Tom:

Thanks for clarifying your situation. I knew I was missing something, but couldn't put my finger on what it was

Yes, your proposal sounds reasonable to me. I'm trying to put myself in your client's shoes. If I were engaging you, I'd want to be able pretty closely to know what my costs were going to be so that I could quote a fee to my own client that I knew I could stick to. (For some reason, clients like to know what they are going to have to pay...)

What you're suggesting sounds a lot like a guaranteed maximum price construction contract, and provides incentives on both sides to produce the work efficiently, with a minimum of "scope creep" and indecision. The only thing I'd suggest, and I'm sure you've already thought about this, is that you ensure that your client knows that if the project scope enlarges, or if there are significant changes after you've started your work, your NTE will adjust accordingly. After all, you shouldn't be penalized for circumstances beyond your control.

Good Luck.

Ray