Very good idea !
Btw, I noticed this on your site
@unknownuser said:

Mac OS X (10.4+) should work, but hasn’t been tested.

Well I guess now it has, (on Mac OS 10.6.5).
Although I could not use "Restore original Keyframes" yet. It stayed greyed out.

Ok, I finaly got it.
I was thinking one had to record the position of the inner group right after it was moved, i.e. while editing the main group. !! Wrong idea !!
So I succeded once I recorded all the positions while no group was being edited.
Maybe this could be indicated in the User Manual.
Thanks.

Oh, I try that, did not work. The arm went bezerk.
I will make a more serious attempt.
This is indeed interesting.

Very interesting.
That's an improvement. A toolbar would make me buy it.
The trouble with those "scene governed animation" is that nothing can be linked. So one has to move every bits and pieces every time.
I wish sub-groups will work in a future version. So a hand would follow the arm movement, added to it's own, for instance.

Oh darn it, they do not have their axes on the same relative spot.
Maybef the plugin that made the groups could be tweaked.

I just read your signature.

Tried selecting all the groups but the #1 and right-click that #1 in the Component manager to Replace Selected.

@unknownuser said:

...don't works for me ...

Hum... just to be sure, one of the faces is not flat on the ground, right ?

I had a similar problem.
Solved by getting one face slightly out of the plane of the other.
If this can help.

I think it has to do with something like
"tb.show if tb.get_last_state == -1" (which I found in another ruby having the same display behavior)
But I do not know where to look for it.

updt: I just removed the minus sign in front of the 1 and that other ruby now displays fine.
Now trying to find an equivalent for the SCF toolbar ...

i]updt:[/i] Could not find anything close but I found the names of the toolbars, so I just added a line to each script, like;
gp_cd_draw_m_tb.show if gp_cd_draw_m_tb.get_last_state == 1
and now all is well.

Anybody knows how to make those SCF Toolbars stick on between work sessions ?
I have to make them reappear at the beginning of every SU session. (Mac)

Working with Photomatch, I had a bad surprise. Could not get to see the model without the photo. I mean I want the exact same point of view as the one given by the adjustments, but seeing only the model.
I checked with v7, indeed it could be done easily then. How can we do it now in v8 ?

![No "Photo" checkbox !!](/uploads/imported_attachments/oOlm_v8.png "No "Photo" checkbox !!")

@bzhu said:

OMG I have been working on this for days and have not figured it out. ... I don't want anything too complicated , just to have the animaton turn into a video.

The most simple way is to use a screen capture app. There are a few. It just makes a video of whatever plays on screen for the time period you set by start & stop. Low res, no rendering.

Hum... I will check.
In fact yes, on other shapes it worked ok in 8.
Won't be easy to find a non-constant problem.

Great ! Good idea.
I will try it in v7.
thx a lot.
I guess a small update of the plugin will be needed.

Huh ....
The shape in the attached file makes Shape Bender crash SU.
I tried it several times.
(The line I want to use is hard to see, on the red axis)

branch-o.skp

Ok, just did that.
thx

Ok, lets disable "Auto-activate paint tool" in the preferences, drawing.

Since v8, as soon as I use the paint bucket once, my selection tool often swicthes to the bucket tool by itself. Ending up painting instead of selecting is very very annoying !!!
Anybody else has that ?

Well, like I said it was my first try. I finally got it after a few more tries.
My mistake was to try to "spray" on a face in a group being outside of it.
Somehow I assumed that's what it did.
Maybe cause I cannot get the "selection" option to work. It just stops and asks to select objects, even when a face is selected before, and it stays suck there, clicking or enter do nothing.
I read the manual, again (very well done btw). Maybe a warning line could be added about groups.
Although it is so obvious now.

You made made day !!!
Works just fine.
This is going to be so usefull !