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    • RE: Why use Sketchup?

      @jason_marantoI think, You are still mising the point of this thread.
      I'm not asking why I should choose Sketchup. I use Sketchup for years now, and some other 3D apps to.
      I am just curious, why other people choose Sketchup, and I'm trying to provoke a discussion. Check, is it just force of habit, or is it a features, that Sketchup has.

      What I wan't or what I need, has nothing to do with this discussion. And I also do not have problem with price, since I use other commercial and expensive apps, like Phtoshop, InDesgin or Illustrator.

      I have already recive some interesting feedback. For now it seems, that the most mentioned reasons to use Sketchup is ease of use, but also support form big company, and big community of users. This is the answer I wanted, to get.
      Also nobody replied "oh! so there is another app, in which i can get for free, this what im paying for in Sketchup". So the reason of choosing Sketchup is not lack of the information about other software.

      Your debate on free software and contribution is a bit off topic. I'm pretty sure you don't know nothing about my contribution to free software, or Sketchup itself, and I do not understand you decided to take up this new thread.

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    • RE: Why use Sketchup?

      @jason_maranto said:

      I'm sorry guy but this just comes across as you griping because you have to pay for something -- and that's just sad.

      No, if I can pick software, that gives me this and more for free, absolutly legal. And maybe, just maybe, better quality.

      @jason_maranto said:

      Google bought and made Sketchup free in the first place. [...] if the feature you want for free has no value to the developers as a feature they are interested in giving away, then why should they include it? Especially in the free version...

      So Blender shouldn't exist? Once it was commercial too, and now it's free, because people bought it ang give it away free. What about Google Chrome. It's not only free, it's open source. Is it poor etiquette to criticize Chrome?

      @jason_maranto said:

      [...]but free software is a gift and to complain about a gift not being as "full featured" as you would like it to be is ungrateful and poor etiquette.

      So nobody can criticize Firefox, or Thunderbird, or Blender, or millions of others? Why? Because they are free?

      @jason_maranto said:

      If you want a right to complain then buy Sketchup Pro, or try to become a Super Modeler (Google Earth), or write some Ruby Plugins for the community -- until you contribute something of worth I would not expect the Sketchup dev team to see your complaint as anything more than white noise.

      You can't criticize bread and its taste, until you bake some for people? You can't choose different bakery?

      I do not understand your approach. Sketchup is not my enemy. I like this software and I use it a lot. I'm just curious, why people pay for some plugins, they can have for free in different software, maybe even better implementation of this funcition which is commercial in Sketchup. In software that is also easy to use. And I want to know that reason. Thats all.
      It can be just convenience, or it can be something else.

      posted in SketchUp Discussions
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    • RE: Why use Sketchup?

      @thomthom said:

      And I've also been a fan of applications with plugins, which let you choose the features you want. Being able to adapt the application to your need and avoid all the stuff you never use. (I've used 3dsmax, but only a fraction of the tools available.) Firefox is my browser of choice, due to its plugins, even though other browsers have some really nice features and some times better HTML5 and CSS3 support.

      It is a good point. I also hate very big apps, which grow to be slow, and pain to use. Example of this is Nero, so I switched to ImgBurn, or big video editing tolls, which I replace with VirtualDub (1,6 MB instead of 1,6 GB ๐Ÿ˜‰.

      Plugins is great stuff to, I agree. But Sketchup without plugins lacks same basic functions. Who dosent use Bevel? Who dosen't use subdivide? Instalation file of Wings3D, which contains functionality stored i dozens of Sketchup plugins, have size of 8,6 MB. Instalation file of sktechup weighs over 41 MB.

      Sometimes plugins don't work properly, nobody guarantee quality of them, and so on. Some of them are commercial, and you have to pay for them, and there are other free programs which have these functionality by default.

      I just wonder, why Sketchup do not have some of this basic functions in default instalation.

      Despite this, I like the idea of plugins in Sketchup. It is just sad, if I want Subdivide and Smooth, I have to pay for it, but in WIngs it's free and work very well out of the box. So full feature SKetchup isn't free, it needs lot of stuff you have to buy extra. Like render engine.

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    • Why use Sketchup?

      I am curious why do You choosed to use Sketchup?
      Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for a flame war, and I'm not saying Sketchup is a bad software. I like it my self.
      But Sketchup, needs a lot of plugins like "Joint Push Pull", "Round Edge" or "Subdivide and Smooth" which some other free software have default built in. Main competition here is Wings3D and Blender (which is getting very interesting since 2.5).

      So I ask You, Sketchup fans, why do You choose Sketchup? What make worth of installing lots of plugins, or even pay for some of them (Subdivide and Smooth)?

      PS.
      I know all this programs is just tools, and everybody uses what works for them. Some programs are better in organics modeling, some in architecture (like Sketchup). But a lot of people here uses Sketchup even for organics modeling. There must be reason for that an I'm curious what it is.

      Sorry for my imperfect English. It is not my first language.

      posted in SketchUp Discussions sketchup
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