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Thanks very much with ideas from you all, it was realy useful. I spent about a couple of hours looking at more tutorials, information, etc., being careful to 'walk not run' as it is easy to get carried away.
If I do make another mess I'll finish the topic with 2nd part of the saying........"try, try again" although I'll try to avoid it.
I had difficulty in 'youtube' finding anything to do with house building but I'll keep searching.
John
Hi everyone,
I have come to the conclution that after my topic; "Built walls are are exact height, but there not??" I thought I had solved the problem but then another problem showed up. Whit that I decided "enough is enough" and scrapped it and I am going to start again even though I've wasted weeks and weeks of work.
I will try building in metric as it should be easier and some of the 'components' I have saved, hopfully there are no problems there. But before I start I would like a few answers:
I'm trying to get started without creating problems with my first prodject and ending up with a mess again.
Thank you for all your help on my last project but it was going from bad to worse so I had to stop. I have learnt a lot but I've a load to learn hense my questions before I start. Looking forward get going again and egger to hear your ideas which can help. (I must be a masochist).
Thanks again.
John
Hi, Englanddesktop here.
Thanks for your pep talk, I'm not the only person in the world with a SU problem. I had unfounded reason for doubting my ability. When this problem is solved by others or myself, there will be others. I will more than likely have other problems and mistakes but I have learnt a lot, maybe the hard way. It's nice to get help when you or I get an "unsolvable" problem.
Thanks very much for your input.
John
@chrisglasier said:
Also have you made the walls components?
Hi Chris
Sorry I must have missed your reply. When I started my prodject the walls where the first thing that I was building. At that time I wasn't knowledgeable about groups and components but I'd learn as I went along. Famous saying "don't run before you've learnt to walk", how true. If I had made them into components from the start I could have myself a lot of problems.
Lesson learnt, and a lot more to learn.
Thanks for lesson
John
@unknownuser said:
Hello
Have you checked your unit length precision in the model info? Bet you have it set to something beside 1/64", like a 1/4" or 1/8".
Ken
Hi Ken
I think the measurement go to 1/8" although 1/16" is shown. I pondered with going low to 1/64" but I decided against it, good or bad decision I don't know.
I felt more compfortable with imperial as I was brought up with it but my work has all gone metric and admittedly is easier to use. When I retired I drifted back to imperial but when I started SU I should have gone with metric. I did mention to a member of the forum that on hind sight, I will go "foreign", this 'old dog' should learn new tricks.
John
hi 'J'
I tried your method and it said that it was sucessful but when I sent it only the message went through.
I did one of my 'snipping tool' I've used it today but will my house front be too big?
John
@jean lemire said:
Hi John, hi folks.
If your file is too big, first make sure that there are not a lot of textures that you may have used but that are now unused. These textures stay in the file, although they are not being used and they can add to the file size. You can purge these using the purge feature built in the Material dialog box.
The same applies to components and also to layers.
Or, you can do a global purge using "Menu Window --> Model info --> Statistics --> Purge Unused".
If, after doing that, your model is still to big (more than 1 Meg), try this procedure:
1 - Select only the part of the model that is causing the problem.
2 - Copy it with CTRL-C. CTRL stands for the "control" key.
3 - Open a new instance of SU (on PC) or a new file (on Mac).
4 - Paste using CTRL-V.
5 - Save the new model. This one shall not be too big.
Without the actual SKP file, it is very difficult to diagnose your problem.
Just ideas.
Hi 'J'
I won't be able to show off my house when its finished because it will be very large indeed.
I found out that I could sent a small section that may be helpful at the moment. But I will also try your method as well and see if I make it work for me, (I'll probably break it 
)
I'll sent it for a trial.
Thanks John
I've tried all the suggestions that have been given to me today so thanks for your input, its stopped me from going insane.
I have taken yet another 'snipping tool' photo to show the problem.
To recap, at the start many weeks ago I made the base, I then started to build the walls. They where doubled checked of each walls hieght and they where all 7feet 6inchestall exactly. Starting in the centre of the building, the staircase, and working out gradually building each wall and again checking the hieght. I entered each mearurement on the keyboard 7'6" and pressed 'enter' to make sure it was exact.
Two days ago I came across the problem of some walls each where exactly 7'6" but when to gether there was a difference. I repaired to problem and then found another wall with a problem, this time 1 wall was 7'6" and the other was 7' 5 7/8", a difference of an 1/8". so now I keep trying to lay floors, some places O.K. but some places won't align so it becomes difficult and time wasting, makes me feel I'm going round in circles. So I ask the question dump it all and start again, (a loss of quite a few weeks weeks work). Or can somebody got a solution so that I can carry on?
@unknownuser said:
I wonder if parts of your model have been skewed off of the normal vertical-horizontal planes. Try turning on Color by Axis (Window/Styles/Edge). If the vertical wall lines are not blue (vertical), this could account for the small errors.
Wyatt
I have pust pernt how to turn the 'paint bucket' around for part of my floor covering, i.e. 'floorboards'. I may have something to do with it as I don't think I was accurate with the 90 degree turn. I'll double check that as well.
Thanks John
Never used it yet, I forgot all about it. I'll give it a try, thanks
John
@jacm said:
@jacm said:
@jacm said:
@gaieus said:
Hi John,
No, unfortunately it1s not uploaded. Try again, please. What is the file size?
I don't know but I'll find out. Meanwhile I'taken 2 photos with 'snipping tool'. I will try to send them in jpeg. Here's hoping.
John
I've sent the wrong one . Heres another one. I found that the lavels are uneven but when I checked the walls individually they were all 7'6" exactly but very close up they a difference in hieght even though they were built on a level plane. I'm so far into the build I don't how to fix it. When I do fix a part it moves to the next part with the same problem. Maybe I should start again?
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I sent another which its shows up a lot better. You can see the uneven cover.[attachment=0:32gyf1nr]<!-- ia0 -->More uneven cover.JPG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:32gyf1nr]
@jacm said:
@jacm said:
@gaieus said:
Hi John,
No, unfortunately it1s not uploaded. Try again, please. What is the file size?
I don't know but I'll find out. Meanwhile I'taken 2 photos with 'snipping tool'. I will try to send them in jpeg. Here's hoping.
John
I've sent the wrong one . Heres another one. I found that the lavels are uneven but when I checked the walls individually they were all 7'6" exactly but very close up they a difference in hieght even though they were built on a level plane. I'm so far into the build I don't how to fix it. When I do fix a part it moves to the next part with the same problem. Maybe I should start again?
John
@jacm said:
@gaieus said:
Hi John,
No, unfortunately it1s not uploaded. Try again, please. What is the file size?
I don't know but I'll find out. Meanwhile I'taken 2 photos with 'snipping tool'. I will try to send them in jpeg. Here's hoping.
John[/quote
I've sent 1 photo, I'll try the other 1.
I don't know the size but I do know it is extremely large.
@jacm said:
@gaieus said:
Hi John,
No, unfortunately it1s not uploaded. Try again, please. What is the file size?
I don't know but I'll find out. Meanwhile I'taken 2 photos with 'snipping tool'. I will try to send them in jpeg. Here's hoping.![this shows the below the "base line" as it where. Caused by unequal walls which it is hard to find, so laying the floor is a nightmare.](/uploads/imported_attachments/JhNb_Thingsunlevel.JPG "this shows the below the "base line" as it where. Caused by unequal walls which it is hard to find, so laying the floor is a nightmare.")
John
@gaieus said:
Hi John,
No, unfortunately it1s not uploaded. Try again, please. What is the file size?
I don't know but I'll find out. Meanwhile I'taken 2 photos with 'snipping tool'. I will try to send them in jpeg. Here's hoping.
John
@chrisglasier said:
Go metric - you're in Blighty.
I am an imperial person of that age but yes I should have gone matric because it is easier. Unfortunately even if I had gone metric it doesn't solved my problem.
Your right though, I'll go metric in the future. But at the moment?
John
@d12dozr said:
John,
Please see this screen grab for where to attach your file. When you have located the file and attached it, click "Add the File", then "Submit"
I think I have sent the file although it was big and took a long time to transfer. I don't even know if it transfered at all.
(Ignorance isn't bliss)
John
Hi Jean
I'll try, but I've never done anything like this before. I'm going to have a go now but it is totally above my head.
Sorry, I was totally lost, I didn't know what I was doing so I can't send a file.
Thanks for the reply
John
I have spent weeks and weeks on building my house. I was extra careful in measuring there height so that they were all 7ft 6ins tall. Obviously somewhere down the line I've made a mistake although I double and tripled checked with my measuring was correct to save me trouble later on and STILL its wrong. I've tried to correct the walls but cleared 1 section only to find the trouble next to it.
Its a pity I can't draw a picture because it is hard explaining only with words, is there a way of putting attachments?
My question is will I have to go right back to the beginning and starting it all over again or can you tell me a simple way of correcting my mistake.
To simplify it: wall built to 7'6". As I have gone on building and added another wall later on, measured it - 7'6". On trying to correct the mistake 1 wall is 1/8" longer? but when I checked the walls separately there both 7'6" exactly.
Sorry if this is a bit long but it is hard to put into words only.
John
Martin Rinehart,
Yes I am a newbie, It's a good pictorial you have shown me. It demonstrates what you can do 'thinking outside the box' to use the same tools for a completely different use. I have trouble with 'tunnel thinking' so people like yourself help me by steping back and come in a different angle. I just hope I can pull the "tunnel" down so making learning easier. Thanks very much.
John