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For toggling, just recall the menu, without selection.
For the icon, I remember I have published an ugly one, with name IconXraySelection.png.
If you can't find it, create whatever icon with this name and it should appear in the toolbar.
If this script is useful, then I may document it and release it properly (and add an option for wireframe as well).
Fredo
@jclements said:
So far my experimentation has only turned up the following: It seems the "left-over" vertical edges from the rounded corner are left remaining. However, at least in simple models, they are easy enough to erase.
John
In this version 1.0, I preferred to keep a non-destructive approach, because the few investigations I had made showed me that the clean up must be handle with subtle care in order to avoid messing up the model. In simples cases, it is anyway relatively easy to do the cleanup by hand.
So this should be for a further version.
This is possible, and it's typically a script that would be progressively enriched by the experience of users, because similarity is something actually quite subjective (unless you have the full specs of what Wings3D does).
Let's get more feedback from other members of the forum.
It looks like you still have in your plugin folder an old file which has not been updated at the new version level 1.2 (apparently it loads an outdated definition of a structure called OFS_Node). This can possibly be OffsetOnSurface.rb (from version 1.0) or LibOnSurface.rb (from version 1.1). I don't think this is related to other scripts.
So, just re-install version 1.2, making sure that you replace and overwrite all files "xxxxonsurface" (including theose you may have renamed).
Fredo
@cphillips said:
I am blown away! That little game is pure genius. I been looking at the same API's for years and it never occurred to me to use the webdialog to drive animation.I am glad Sketchup isn't done surprising me.
Thanks for finding that video Daniel.
Chris,
I am glad to see that the speech gave a substantial room for your SketchyPhysics. I have always been so impressed by what you have achieved, and so amazed by the results of some models in 3D Warehouse (those shown during the speech are incredible !).
...and this idea of coding via the web dialog boxes is really a great idea to explore further, as beyond doing animations, I am sure there are other useful tricks that can be implemneted this way.
Fredo
@daniel s said:
Offtopic, but today using tools on surface I thought that a "scale on surface" would be useful. Not making a request because you have already too many things but I´m telling this because something like that can replace some other future tools. For example, using the circle OS and then using the Scale OS you can make the Ellipse OnS, or with the poligon OS you can make a square and then with the Scale OS make the rectangle OnS. Just a thought
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Daniel S
Actually, my plan is simply to release a Polygon tool specified by 3 points, which will cover ellipse (with high number of segments), down to rectangle (4 segments) and isocele triangle (3 segments).
Otherwise, the only idea I could see for Scale On Surface, would be to force the Offset in a particular direction, or in radial mode, from a particular point. In the general case, I think you have a better control with the Offset tool.
As said in my previous post, I need to check if it's manageable when edges have any orientation (I think it is), and also confirm that it only works for intersection of 2 or 3 edges only, not more.
Note also that the 'true' rounding generate much more faces at the corners.
The initial version was more a trial and is closer to the spirit of a FollowMe. The interest, in my mind, is that it should be capable to handle custom profiles, allowing to decorate edges with profiled shapes. It also helped me to check how Sketchup handles surface intersections (which you can see is not always perfect, due to precision problems).
So, don't worry, I keep the request in my list.
Ibon,
Take your time, Tools on Surface is still a quite long story (and requires many more icons and cursors).
Just to be sure I was clear by 'scale up' is simply to use the maximum space in the button, as in the following sample:
Thanks in advance
Fredo
PS for Daniel S: your icons were not bad too, and actually very much in the style of Sketchup, with the brown color.
@kmead said:
I do have a quibble which may or may not be shared by all:
The intersection of the rounded edges should meet in a semi-spherical intersection when three arcs meet at a corner, versus the hipped or groined intersection that is now occurring.
I think it would be manageable to make a 'polished, round' join for 3 edges, whatever is their orientation. It's probably a geometrical headache, but the method would be mathematically exact, and imply no surface intersection.
This is simply based on the remark that if the 3 edges are mutually orthogonal, as in a cube, you can draw a spherical join. Then, because you can always transform geometrically 3 edges with any orientations into orthogonal axes (via 3 plane shear transformations), you could deform the join as well with these transformations. This would give a junction with no groined intersection. This would work for 2 edges too.
For 4 edges or more, I am not sure there is a geometrical shear transformation, preserving parallels, that could allow to transform them into a regular topology. But maybe I am wrong!
Anyway, this is just for future work, but it's an interesting idea to explore.
Ibon,
Actually, this is not the size in absolute pixels that matters, but the fact that you use the full square area. I guess you could just scale up a little bit the drawings, to use more real-estate in the square. In this way, we can distinguish the circle from the polygon, which otherwise are quite small.
For the question of big vs. small icons, I made provision in the code of Tools On Surface (and Round Edge) for icons to be specified both in 16x16 or 24x24.
The naming convention is that the plugins accepts 3 file names, for instance:
The script will look first for the most relevant one if it exists, and otherwise try the other filenames.
In the current version, I was lazy and just design icons in 32x32 to go to the small and big toolbar modes (my opensource icon editor does not support 24x24 and 16x16).
Again thanks for your initiative
Fredo
Ibon,
Your icons are great, I like the design.
Could you however make them a little big bigger so that they cover the samll button surface. In Sketchup with 'small' buttons, we do not see enough of the details.
Also, if not too much asking, I would need the cursors (also as png in 32x32) for the cursors, as they are supposed to be inspired from the icons.
With your permission, I think of adopting the icons and package them in a next version.
Thanks very much
Fredo
Remus,
Sorry for this. A last minute problem and I took the wrong version.
I reloaded one on the main message that should work.
Fredo
John,
Could you give me more on the error (for instance on LineOnsurface), so that I can try to find out what's wrong with your set up.
What bothers me however is that LineOnSurface has only 568 lines and you seem to get an error somewhere at line 899 !!!
Thanks
Fredo
[Edit 9 Jul 09] I published a new script, RoundCorner 2.0, which does true rounding at corners (and keep te Sharp mode). You may consider to use this script instead.
Here is the link to the main post of that thread.http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20485&hilit=plugin
Here is a script that typically would round the edges and corners of a cube. As I still don't get the subtle differences between Bevel and Chamfer, I simply called it RoundEdge. The picture below gives some idea of what it intends to do.
There's still a lot of work to do, as you can guess that the topological situations are numerous enough that you have to treat many cases. So this is very a first version, with profiles of the rounding shape generated with Beziercurves, to ensure the tangency at the intersection with original faces.
Though I am not totally sure, I anticipate that the tool can be extended to support custom profiles.
Doc is attached in PDF in the subfolder RDE_DIR (only in English for the time being).
It should work in Sketchup v5 and v6, and on PC or Mac (thanks to confirm). As usual, the button coming in the toolbar is my own artistic design (I guess you would notice anyway 
)
John
Could you turn on the Ruby Console and check if anything is shown.
That could help. Thanks
Fredo
@jclements said:
I can not draw on any surface using v1.2. They do seem to work on "white space" (no other geometry under the cursor).
Bizarre! Are you sure you do not draw over a Group? This would not work then, as it the tools on surface implies you draw over the active model opened.
@jclements said:
1- the Line tool has a "generate as curves" option. What is that supposed to do, create a continuous/welded (non-segmented) polyline? I didn't see a definition of this in the PDF file.
The generate curve option is just for convenience, as it makes segments easier to manipulate. But, as you know, Sketchup would break the curves at some intersection of edges or faces. So, the Contour Editor does not use the Curve properties and instead reconstruct the topology of the contour based on looking for connecting edges, regardless how they were generated. This is why you can have in the same contours lines and polygons, or repair a polygon with lines on surface.
@jclements said:
2- How are the number of sides for the Polygon or Circle tool modified?
As Remus said, just type a number followed by an 's' (as in the native Sketchup Polygon / Circle tools by the way). You can enter the radius / diameter and the number of segments in the same command, separated by semi-column. This is described in the doc.
@jclements said:
P.S. Have you noticed how some of Jim's toolbar icons work; if you double-click on them, an options menus appear where you can change parameters. The might be something to consider for your toolbar icons.
I am not sure, but I think this feature has dependencies on Windows. If I have time, I will try to address this general problem of options and values, most probably via a contextual Web Dialog box with the right click (so that you don't have to go across the all view to change things). Simply, I have found no way to use the right click without showing either the default contextual menu, or my own contextual menu when the right click happens to be on a selectable element.
Thanks to advise on your problem of drawing.
Too bad, as I thought we had a method to provide a utility libraries based on operating system, but portable between PC and Mac.
I guess this is possible, but we just need to package to offer the same interface, even with different code and binaries underneath
Thanks anyway for this contribution. I'll try to have a closer look whenever I have some time left.
Oops, I forgot to include LibTraductor.rb in the package, which indeed will be missing if you never installed previous verssions of ToolOnSurface or JointPushPull or BezierSpline
I have updated the ZIP archive in the main post of this thread
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=10242&p=66968#p66968
Thanks, apx, for advising on this problem
I am running Windows XP on a regular laptop.
I am still running Sketchup 6.0.515, in case this does matter.
I have them all, and in the right place as specified in the Zip file.
I hope you find the issue, so that we can educate the approach.