Look, Id be quite ok if everybody said work this out for yourself, but with this new lappie I am quite out of my depth.
It has so much HP software, security, paranoia, passwords, etc.

I dont live in that world, I need a clean simple machine. (mac users need not reply:)

Ive tried numerous searches along the lines of "how do I get this crap off my computer" etc, to no avail.

Ive got security comin out my ass!

its an HP8710p, 2.5ghz. 2mg ram. nvid quadro 300. with bells and it does whistle.
Wlan networked to the workshop pc, no prob, it flies with su nearly as well as the shed one.

but i keep getting stopped with hp gui's and p/word requests.

I set it all up, I think, and then next time I log on I have to do it all again!

Bottom Line: Does anyone know what Hp business apps can be removed to make it a normal machine?

there you go. was just previewing this message and bloody computer went into standby, despite me telling it to stay on 'always',

Baz, with eternal gratitude.

ps: I do have serious avg protection post-installed. got rid of that symentac b/s pronto.

I've just got my first laptop too and had no problems authorising su on it with my existing details.
What I am trying to figure out however is how to transfer my shortcuts and other preferences.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
baz.

ps: its an hp 8610p. 2.5ghz 17"ws, nvidea quadro nvs320, and its a ripper:)

well its been a few months now and I still have'nt had the cahoolies to install sp3.
Anybody tried recently, any problems?
baz

Thanks James, i dont have much use for hip, but a JL tutorial is poetry in su, and Ive never failed to learn from him.
baz.

Love the words, they were like images.
The image was more like words.

baz

Re Ord of the rings, I read it at college many years ago.
Was enraptured along with most of my fellow students, in fact, tutors gave direction that any student currently reading LOTR was to be left alone until done so as to expedite their return to studies.
Read it again when the first movie came out, (30 years later and read it right through whats more!) Still reads well, it's well written and a cracking story.
But have to agree wit you there dh, it is 'over much', a simplistic view of the elementals, good, evil. freewill and intentions.
It's all turned out much more complicated than that, n'est pas?

Tho I thought the film making brill. The non CGI landscape was astounding, (I've been there, it's real), which segues me into why I dislike rendering as an artform rather than a graphic representation tool. It seems like a lot of work to fake something real. I love really good science fiction illustration tho, done well one can imagine/experience the scene as real. Ditto movies like the matrix where photorealism was essential to the experience.
my movie rendering faves would have to be the invincibles and rattatoulie and the one with the small woosie fish in Sydney.
Also happy feet...Im beyond saving, no, really, the rendering of snow and reflections was pure art. And yes they are cartoonsish.
In the same way SU is.
I'm getting bogged down here, but in some manner its something to do with, 'rendering is cheating'. or not telling the truth, or something? Oh dear, might be time to put some JT on.

DH: looking forward to seeing some web action. (I'd show you mine buts its down cos I did'nt pay the bill and I'd lost interest anyway).

Taff, had a look at your models, very fine. Yes you are obsessed! Along with quite a few others it seems, (always been an amateur fan of RBF.)

baz.

religion caused me so much stress when i was young that i had to give it up.
now im gonna live forever.
its true tho, if one cant believe in anything: god, gaia, the force, oneself, vegetables, then you gonna die sooner.
but also, i believe that keeping the old grey matter challenged (ie: learning.)is mucho importante.
baz

you want ironic? how about (put example here)?

I wish I was funny.

daniel, thanks for that, funnily enuf I'd just finished drawing one of these, in aussieland its a 1000litre bulk liquid container, anyway, made it into a component but every time I tried to load it into a drawing it crashed su. Sent a bugslat report and decided to let the gremlins win that one and deleted it throughly from my system and started again. The first one took me 35 minutes to draw. The second one (which of course came out better) took all of 10.
Damn Im getting good at this:).
It's attached, no detail, quick and nasty, but ok for this job.
Baz.

Ps: had a site meeting yesterday, after a 45min safety induction.(I now know which way to run:) The engineering mob down there hadn't seen Su capabilities, tho they of course were au fait with cad and 3d and they'd heard of su, "oh yeah, that free program". (Thanks google! Would that be the free program thet I shelled out over 700 bucks for?) Btw, I got the job after one of the engineers d/loaded the free and realised it aint just software that gets the job done.
But they were v. impressed with the presentation aspects. Ie: after the serious design work is done,and it is very serious and inflammable, they still have to explain it to the men in suits and overalls who generally could'nt read a cad if it was inserted fundamentally. Su is perfect for walking the various stakeholders around the actual. su rocks!

bulk liquids.skp

Hey DH, could you upload bigger images? I'm squinting to try and see the detail. Of which, you must admit, is there in spades (or shovels).
Half the fun for me is trying to work out what the jackbird (is that the right way to use this?) you are on about and how it relates to the attached rave/poetry/ramble. I need bigger, please.
Last image was 650w 602d. we could handle 800x800 surely. or biggerer?
I'm on a 22" ws monitor, lucky me, so I could handle 1680 x 1050. Let the screenpoor people scroll!

baz
ps. I guess the prob with this though, is that then we could get decent printed images of your work, which raises issues of artist rights and compensation.
Not a problem for me tho, I'm too tight to print anything in colour:)

"In a perfect world, you would'nt need a word like utopia."

Hey, thanks very much guys, good stuff, this will get me rolling.
baz

thanks dave, still puzzled tho i understand the hide edge and delete face strategy.
But if you have a component with say 6 faces and you copy it 100 times you still have 600 faces. How do components help that?
I grok how components reduce final file size but on screen they are all still in your face, so to speak

baz.

dave, yes, I would like to see the example, I don't get why hiding edges helps.
thanks,
baz

I dont suppose anybody has some 'fuel containment system' components knocking about?
Finally scored a serious skippy job but budget and timeframe are tight. Unlike the brief, which as usual...etc.
Basically need a drum, a drum handling forklift attachment. A wheely bin would be very handy.
Am also puzzling about how to do the metal walk grid without blowing the polys.
Any help much appreciated, but am i asking too much? Perhaps I should bring out the plastic and try formfonts.
baz

durant, I can understand why you think renders of your su's would open great potentials for your work.
But I hope that you realize that rendering is very, very processor intensive.
Are you willing to let your computer churn away in the background for 2 hours, 6 hours, 2 days? You can't use it for anything else when rendering.
I think you'll find that most serious renderers here will have render farms ie:2, 3 or even four machines that do nothing else.
I get the feeling from your drawings that your workflow/creativity would be seriously hampered by having to stop and wait.
Now I could be wrong with all this, but I think the quality of render you would want would be quite exacting and very laborious to achieve.

Here's an idea, I'm sure there would be several experts here who would be happy to do a test render for you, why not ask em? Then you'd have a better understanding of the benefits and pitfalls.

baz.

I've had this happen sometimes, I think it's something to do with pasting groups or comps from another file with a different axis.
But if you explode the group or comp then regroup it fixes itself.
baz.

here an example:

Great work scott, very realistic styles, su now definitely draws better than me:)
thanks a lot.
baz

Good point Gaieus, thanks, I have reloaded the amended skp.
baz

Great render andrew, if a bit unrealistic.
baz

Its taken me a while to evolve a simple template which suits my usual work, mostly small to medium wood furniture.
Ive noticed with downloads that a lot of sketchuppers use some variation of the attached.
This one is in metric mms, but its mostly about page setup

I hope this might be of use to someone, especially someone just starting out with su and realizing that it is the "thing". (I personally havent been near turbocad for months, ). Pages are the most useful things and save a lot of mouse work and disorientation.

I'd be happy to to take c and c's on this, and I'd like to see other setups.

baz.
ps If you want to use it, delete the geometry and 'save as' to your templates folder.

views.skp

I second the idea of 'grain orientation'.
Perhaps a ruby which laid the grain parallel to the longest side of the entity.

baz.