installed sp3, no problems, fingers crossed.
baz

So a codec pack would be something which covered all bases or does one have to find them all individually?

if you meant 'un'installing, I just went and had a look and this time i was able to uninstall the hp security protect paranoia thingy sucessfully.

remus, while you're there, could you tell me something about codecs?
Something to do with media players is all I know.
I just had a look at jan's site and tried to view his spider animation but 'wrong codec'.
baz

copy that, thanks.
baz

thanks remus, I have started to tentatively remove some HP bits and pieces, with a necessary restart each time. It wont let me uninstall some things, which i assume is what you meant by not being able not being able to do much damage.
baz.

@juanv.soler said:

I have got to the point of understanding that I believe,(I am certain of), what I feel.
So I am what I feel and that makes unnecesary the need to believe.
Further more I am able to avoid the feels I dont like.
So, pretty good for now.

As I did a lot of mental_rational_thinking about what was worth to believe in and got to the conclusion that if *** existed I obviously had to know about *** I sort of make a submission to life itself, in the sense of not unnecesary_strugglings, and keep watching whats happens inside myself.

and i think i am getting sure to have what i always wanted to have
the certainty that *** lives in me as i like He to live in me.
have to see yet if that is a sin or .the inevitable way of my living

Juan, I am so into that. You express it to the max. thanks.
ps: is it just me, or is cornel really boring?

8600 on desk pc
quadro 300m 0n lappie

While not being an expert, experience would suggest Nvidea.
It works.
baz

And I thought it was just me.
Can I come and live at your place?
baz.

Yes, I have an HP xp recovery disc, also a vista install disk.
it all sounds very complicated, there must be an easier way than a complete reinstall?

I do update drivers when absolutely necessary, but are you suggesting that I start from scratch?
don't wanna!

baz
ps: thank you for replying, I must do more myself
pps: been using avg for 3/4 years now, easy to use and always on the case. Must start paying for it soon to stop feeling guilty.
ppps: have been inspired every now and then to chuck a bit in to some other free apps. Maybe should start a thread of worthy causes?

just got a fingerprint request! it never stops!

Look, Id be quite ok if everybody said work this out for yourself, but with this new lappie I am quite out of my depth.
It has so much HP software, security, paranoia, passwords, etc.

I dont live in that world, I need a clean simple machine. (mac users need not reply:)

Ive tried numerous searches along the lines of "how do I get this crap off my computer" etc, to no avail.

Ive got security comin out my ass!

its an HP8710p, 2.5ghz. 2mg ram. nvid quadro 300. with bells and it does whistle.
Wlan networked to the workshop pc, no prob, it flies with su nearly as well as the shed one.

but i keep getting stopped with hp gui's and p/word requests.

I set it all up, I think, and then next time I log on I have to do it all again!

Bottom Line: Does anyone know what Hp business apps can be removed to make it a normal machine?

there you go. was just previewing this message and bloody computer went into standby, despite me telling it to stay on 'always',

Baz, with eternal gratitude.

ps: I do have serious avg protection post-installed. got rid of that symentac b/s pronto.

I've just got my first laptop too and had no problems authorising su on it with my existing details.
What I am trying to figure out however is how to transfer my shortcuts and other preferences.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
baz.

ps: its an hp 8610p. 2.5ghz 17"ws, nvidea quadro nvs320, and its a ripper:)

well its been a few months now and I still have'nt had the cahoolies to install sp3.
Anybody tried recently, any problems?
baz

Thanks James, i dont have much use for hip, but a JL tutorial is poetry in su, and Ive never failed to learn from him.
baz.

Love the words, they were like images.
The image was more like words.

baz

Re Ord of the rings, I read it at college many years ago.
Was enraptured along with most of my fellow students, in fact, tutors gave direction that any student currently reading LOTR was to be left alone until done so as to expedite their return to studies.
Read it again when the first movie came out, (30 years later and read it right through whats more!) Still reads well, it's well written and a cracking story.
But have to agree wit you there dh, it is 'over much', a simplistic view of the elementals, good, evil. freewill and intentions.
It's all turned out much more complicated than that, n'est pas?

Tho I thought the film making brill. The non CGI landscape was astounding, (I've been there, it's real), which segues me into why I dislike rendering as an artform rather than a graphic representation tool. It seems like a lot of work to fake something real. I love really good science fiction illustration tho, done well one can imagine/experience the scene as real. Ditto movies like the matrix where photorealism was essential to the experience.
my movie rendering faves would have to be the invincibles and rattatoulie and the one with the small woosie fish in Sydney.
Also happy feet...Im beyond saving, no, really, the rendering of snow and reflections was pure art. And yes they are cartoonsish.
In the same way SU is.
I'm getting bogged down here, but in some manner its something to do with, 'rendering is cheating'. or not telling the truth, or something? Oh dear, might be time to put some JT on.

DH: looking forward to seeing some web action. (I'd show you mine buts its down cos I did'nt pay the bill and I'd lost interest anyway).

Taff, had a look at your models, very fine. Yes you are obsessed! Along with quite a few others it seems, (always been an amateur fan of RBF.)

baz.

religion caused me so much stress when i was young that i had to give it up.
now im gonna live forever.
its true tho, if one cant believe in anything: god, gaia, the force, oneself, vegetables, then you gonna die sooner.
but also, i believe that keeping the old grey matter challenged (ie: learning.)is mucho importante.
baz

you want ironic? how about (put example here)?

I wish I was funny.

daniel, thanks for that, funnily enuf I'd just finished drawing one of these, in aussieland its a 1000litre bulk liquid container, anyway, made it into a component but every time I tried to load it into a drawing it crashed su. Sent a bugslat report and decided to let the gremlins win that one and deleted it throughly from my system and started again. The first one took me 35 minutes to draw. The second one (which of course came out better) took all of 10.
Damn Im getting good at this:).
It's attached, no detail, quick and nasty, but ok for this job.
Baz.

Ps: had a site meeting yesterday, after a 45min safety induction.(I now know which way to run:) The engineering mob down there hadn't seen Su capabilities, tho they of course were au fait with cad and 3d and they'd heard of su, "oh yeah, that free program". (Thanks google! Would that be the free program thet I shelled out over 700 bucks for?) Btw, I got the job after one of the engineers d/loaded the free and realised it aint just software that gets the job done.
But they were v. impressed with the presentation aspects. Ie: after the serious design work is done,and it is very serious and inflammable, they still have to explain it to the men in suits and overalls who generally could'nt read a cad if it was inserted fundamentally. Su is perfect for walking the various stakeholders around the actual. su rocks!

bulk liquids.skp

Hey DH, could you upload bigger images? I'm squinting to try and see the detail. Of which, you must admit, is there in spades (or shovels).
Half the fun for me is trying to work out what the jackbird (is that the right way to use this?) you are on about and how it relates to the attached rave/poetry/ramble. I need bigger, please.
Last image was 650w 602d. we could handle 800x800 surely. or biggerer?
I'm on a 22" ws monitor, lucky me, so I could handle 1680 x 1050. Let the screenpoor people scroll!

baz
ps. I guess the prob with this though, is that then we could get decent printed images of your work, which raises issues of artist rights and compensation.
Not a problem for me tho, I'm too tight to print anything in colour:)

"In a perfect world, you would'nt need a word like utopia."