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    • A 離線
      amis
      最後由 編輯

      @tig said:

      Can you post a simple list of your installed plugins ?

      2DTools
      Fredo6_Curvizard
      Fredo6_FredoScale
      Fredo6_FredoTools
      Fredo6_JointPushPull
      FrontFace
      Layer Manager
      sketchup-stl
      tt_cleanup
      tt_edgetools
      TT_Lib2
      tt_selection_toys
      tt_solid_inspector
      CenterPointAll.rb
      dropGC.rb
      ExtrudeAlongPath.rb
      ExtrudeTools.rb
      extrude_lines2.rb
      HoleInTheWall.rb
      ithil_facefinder.rb
      ithil_reverseface.rb
      LibTraductor.rb
      makefaces.rb
      mesh_additions.rb
      Mirror.rb
      move_to_origin.rb
      ocean_extension.rb
      PipeAlongPath.rb
      PurgeAll.rb
      pushpull_tool.rb
      recurve.rb
      s4u_makeface.rb
      SectionCutFace.rb
      SimplifyContours.rb
      sketchup-stl.rb
      SketchyFFD.rb
      SliceModeler.rb
      TIG-Split_to_plane.rb
      tt_cleanup.rb
      tt_edgetools.rb
      TT_Lib2.rb
      tt_selection_toys.rb
      tt_solid_inspector.rb
      Zorro2.rb
      There are no quite new plugins here. Every of them I used for long time.

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      • TIGT 離線
        TIG Moderator
        最後由 編輯

        Ignoring those I am 99% sure are OK... 😕

        Try disabling these and re-test:

        FrontFace
        dropGC.rb
        HoleInTheWall.rb
        ithil_facefinder.rb
        ithil_reverseface.rb
        recurve.rb
        s4u_makeface.rb
        SliceModeler.rb

        You also have some 'old' ones that I think might not belong in there - there might be newer su_ versions available ?
        ... e.g.

        ocean_extension.rb
        SimplifyContours.rb

        TIG

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        • A 離線
          amis
          最後由 編輯

          You're right. Many of plugins in my set are a bit old.
          OK. I deleted those you've mentioned, relaunch my SU, select the whole chain (of edges), run PipeAlongPath and stil got SU hang. Looks like my Plugins folder needs total revision...

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          • A 離線
            amis
            最後由 編輯

            I've tried another way. I redrew the same chain (of edges) near existing one and had no problem with making pipe. But still got the hang with existing chain.
            Finally after revision, deleting some of and reinstall/updating all of existing plugins I have no problem. Unfortunally I missed at which step it happened. Thanks TIG


            Pipework.skp

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            • J 離線
              johnwmcc
              最後由 編輯

              I find this plugin very useful to draw scaffolding poles when designing amateur theatre sets using scaffolding as part of the structure. I've reset (in the code) the default sizes, and options, to suit my use.

              I'd also very much like to have the plugin create a component, rather than a group, and to orient the component axis along the direction of the first line segment in the path. Would that be difficult?

              I don't think my own SU Ruby skills are quite up to this, though I may well have a go - I might to able to code for component creation, but have no idea how to set the component axes in Ruby.

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              • TIGT 離線
                TIG Moderator
                最後由 編輯

                You can do it several ways.
                Without recasting this as a Sketchup Tool etc I think your best bet is to make the group as it is.
                Then later you can turn that into a component instance...
                At that stage the origin of the group, and now the component definition ,is at the bounds.min of the container.
                To relocate the axes you need to do theses steps...
                Get the vector from the point you want the axes to be back to the container's origin.
                Then transform all of the definition's entities by that vector.
                Then move the instance by the inverse transformation, so it doesn't visibly move BUT its origin is now at the desired point.
                I assume you'd probably want that to be the center of the start of the extrusion @new_pts[0] aka pt1 ?
                You always want the axes to align in the red along the pipe ?
                Insert something like this order around line#490 [untested]...

                ###...
                ###
                inst=group.to_component
                defn=inst.definition
                defn.name="some_name_you_like"
                ents=defn.entities
                vec.reverse!
                xaxis=inst.transformation.xaxis
                vert=vec.cross(xaxis)
                trans=Geom;;Transformation.new()
                unless vert.length==0
                	ang=vec.angle_between(xaxis)
                	unless ang==0
                		trans=Geom;;Transformation.rotation(pt1, vert, ang)
                		ents.transform_entities(trans, ents.to_a)
                		inst.transform!(trans.inverse)
                	end
                end
                vector=pt1.vector_to(ORIGIN)
                unless vector.length==0
                	trans=Geom;;Transformation.translation(vector)
                	ents.transform_entities(trans, ents.to_a)
                	trans=Geom;;Transformation.translation(vector.reverse.transform(inst.transformation))
                	inst.transform!(trans)
                end
                defn.invalidate_bounds
                ###
                	model.commit_operation
                

                ??? It IS convoluted ???

                TIG

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                • EdsonE 離線
                  Edson
                  最後由 編輯

                  hi TIG,

                  I am having repeated crashes while using PipeAlongPath to create a handrail. the model is small and should not be a problem. I wonder if there is a conflict with some other extension. list of extensions attached.

                  any ideas?

                  Screenshot 2015-06-10 14.46.06.png
                  Screenshot 2015-06-10 14.45.56.png


                  escada-emergencia_Leste.skp

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  • TIGT 離線
                    TIG Moderator
                    最後由 編輯

                    With your SKP I get the Bugsplat! as well.
                    So something is odd in your path...
                    I can make it work with an exploded path and 8s extrusion...escada-emergencia_Leste.PNG The issue is caused by the tiny geometry you try to make by having very segmented 'sweeps' between the long rails.
                    If you make 90 degree junctions it works at 24s OK...escada-emergencia_Leste_90.PNGIf you want radiused 'sweeps' make them at least the diameter of the tube...escada-emergencia_Leste_26mmRad.PNGHere the swept radius is 26mm, the tube is 25mm radius [5cm diam] - so that works... 😛
                    This is a 'full-sweep' between the two main rails.escada-emergencia_Leste+FullSweep.PNG 🤓
                    Make a swept arc that's tangential from the mid-point of the two rails.
                    Copy that and rotate it to match the other slope...
                    Then weld the path and the rails sweep seamlessly around a curve as I suspect you'd prefer...

                    TIG

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                    • EdsonE 離線
                      Edson
                      最後由 編輯

                      I built the path with Fredo6's BezierSpline extension (Polyline Arc Corners tool). the odd thing is that it works with Profile Builder.

                      regards.

                      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                      • oldskoolflashO 離線
                        oldskoolflash
                        最後由 編輯

                        Thanks for this, how do I activate the toolbar set for this?

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                        • TIGT 離線
                          TIG Moderator
                          最後由 編輯

                          @oldskoolflash said:

                          Thanks for this, how do I activate the toolbar set for this?
                          You can't !
                          It doesn't have a toolbar - there is just a menu entry.

                          TIG

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                          • R 離線
                            Roky
                            最後由 編輯

                            Easy to Use, Well done. worked in Sketchup 2016

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                            • mariochaM 離線
                              mariocha
                              最後由 編輯

                              Here is a "LangHandlered" version of it.
                              Had to modify some strings.
                              French included.
                              Only thing not completely translated is the last check, for slight skew. I could not reproduce the error case.


                              PipeAlongPath.rbz

                              %(#008000)[Mario C.
                              Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                              • Y 離線
                                yingishere
                                最後由 編輯

                                Thanks

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                                • TampaPowersT 離線
                                  TampaPowers
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Just installed in 2018, causes a crash.

                                  Sketchup Community Discord

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                                  • TIGT 離線
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    @tampapowers said:

                                    Just installed in 2018, causes a crash.
                                    I just tried using it in v2018... and it worked just fine.
                                    What settings are you using ?
                                    What's the preselected path like ?
                                    A simple example SKP might help...

                                    TIG

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                                    • TampaPowersT 離線
                                      TampaPowers
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      This is the path: https://i.imgur.com/HOQ8AC1.png
                                      Settings are: https://i.imgur.com/6EdzK9f.png

                                      Sketchup Community Discord

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                                      • TIGT 離線
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        You can attach images and SKPs to your post.
                                        Without a SKP I can't be 100% sure, but I suspect you are falling foul of the tiny geometry issues that SketchUp has, that is if two points are within SketchUp's built-in tolerance of 1/1000".
                                        Then it cannot make that edge and any related face[s] can't then be made either !
                                        Your outer diameter of 3mm and internal diameter of 1mm will most likely try to produce some tiny facets - especially when you give it 12 sides, and it is following that very wavy path, which itself I guess has several small segments per wave ?

                                        The way to make something this small is as follows...

                                        • Create the path.
                                        • Make a component of it.
                                        • Make a copy to one side.
                                        • Scale the copy up by say x1000.
                                        • Re-zoom extents so that you see the giant copy.
                                        • Edit the copy and select the path.
                                        • Use the PipeAlongPath tool, adjusting the settings by the scale-factor - e.g. 3mm >>> 3m
                                        • When the pipe is successfully made, exit the edit and delete the giant copy.
                                        • Re-zoom to look at the normal sized instance and the very tiny geometry will be OK.
                                          Tiny geometry can exist, but you cannot create it at the tiny dimensions.

                                        Note that this tiny-geometry tolerance issue can affect many operations in SketchUp and its Extensions - the above fix works for all such cases...
                                        Any operation that might make tiny edges - like an intersect-with etc - benefits from this workaround...

                                        TIG

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                                        • TampaPowersT 離線
                                          TampaPowers
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Scaled up by a factor of 100 it no longer crashes. Maybe build in an error if things get too small so it does not immediately crash?

                                          Sketchup Community Discord

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                                          • TIGT 離線
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            It already has some traps.
                                            For example if you do a right-angle bend with a very segmented pipe below a diameter of about 200mm the tiny inner facets will fail.
                                            It warns you.

                                            However the permutations of paths and diameters make it awkward to trap all situations - letting the user use their brains is good idea [IMHO]...
                                            The scaling up temporarily is a well known workaround for such potential problems, applicable in many situations...

                                            TIG

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