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  • A Offline
    amis
    last edited by 19 Apr 2015, 04:59

    I've tried another way. I redrew the same chain (of edges) near existing one and had no problem with making pipe. But still got the hang with existing chain.
    Finally after revision, deleting some of and reinstall/updating all of existing plugins I have no problem. Unfortunally I missed at which step it happened. Thanks TIG


    Pipework.skp

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    • J Offline
      johnwmcc
      last edited by 29 May 2015, 21:58

      I find this plugin very useful to draw scaffolding poles when designing amateur theatre sets using scaffolding as part of the structure. I've reset (in the code) the default sizes, and options, to suit my use.

      I'd also very much like to have the plugin create a component, rather than a group, and to orient the component axis along the direction of the first line segment in the path. Would that be difficult?

      I don't think my own SU Ruby skills are quite up to this, though I may well have a go - I might to able to code for component creation, but have no idea how to set the component axes in Ruby.

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        TIG Moderator
        last edited by 30 May 2015, 13:20

        You can do it several ways.
        Without recasting this as a Sketchup Tool etc I think your best bet is to make the group as it is.
        Then later you can turn that into a component instance...
        At that stage the origin of the group, and now the component definition ,is at the bounds.min of the container.
        To relocate the axes you need to do theses steps...
        Get the vector from the point you want the axes to be back to the container's origin.
        Then transform all of the definition's entities by that vector.
        Then move the instance by the inverse transformation, so it doesn't visibly move BUT its origin is now at the desired point.
        I assume you'd probably want that to be the center of the start of the extrusion @new_pts[0] aka pt1 ?
        You always want the axes to align in the red along the pipe ?
        Insert something like this order around line#490 [untested]...

        ###...
        ###
        inst=group.to_component
        defn=inst.definition
        defn.name="some_name_you_like"
        ents=defn.entities
        vec.reverse!
        xaxis=inst.transformation.xaxis
        vert=vec.cross(xaxis)
        trans=Geom;;Transformation.new()
        unless vert.length==0
        	ang=vec.angle_between(xaxis)
        	unless ang==0
        		trans=Geom;;Transformation.rotation(pt1, vert, ang)
        		ents.transform_entities(trans, ents.to_a)
        		inst.transform!(trans.inverse)
        	end
        end
        vector=pt1.vector_to(ORIGIN)
        unless vector.length==0
        	trans=Geom;;Transformation.translation(vector)
        	ents.transform_entities(trans, ents.to_a)
        	trans=Geom;;Transformation.translation(vector.reverse.transform(inst.transformation))
        	inst.transform!(trans)
        end
        defn.invalidate_bounds
        ###
        	model.commit_operation
        

        ??? It IS convoluted ???

        TIG

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        • E Offline
          Edson
          last edited by 10 Jun 2015, 17:42

          hi TIG,

          I am having repeated crashes while using PipeAlongPath to create a handrail. the model is small and should not be a problem. I wonder if there is a conflict with some other extension. list of extensions attached.

          any ideas?

          Screenshot 2015-06-10 14.46.06.png
          Screenshot 2015-06-10 14.45.56.png


          escada-emergencia_Leste.skp

          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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          • T Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by 10 Jun 2015, 18:21

            With your SKP I get the Bugsplat! as well.
            So something is odd in your path...
            I can make it work with an exploded path and 8s extrusion...escada-emergencia_Leste.PNG The issue is caused by the tiny geometry you try to make by having very segmented 'sweeps' between the long rails.
            If you make 90 degree junctions it works at 24s OK...escada-emergencia_Leste_90.PNGIf you want radiused 'sweeps' make them at least the diameter of the tube...escada-emergencia_Leste_26mmRad.PNGHere the swept radius is 26mm, the tube is 25mm radius [5cm diam] - so that works... 😛
            This is a 'full-sweep' between the two main rails.escada-emergencia_Leste+FullSweep.PNG 🤓
            Make a swept arc that's tangential from the mid-point of the two rails.
            Copy that and rotate it to match the other slope...
            Then weld the path and the rails sweep seamlessly around a curve as I suspect you'd prefer...

            TIG

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              Edson
              last edited by 10 Jun 2015, 19:18

              I built the path with Fredo6's BezierSpline extension (Polyline Arc Corners tool). the odd thing is that it works with Profile Builder.

              regards.

              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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              • oldskoolflashO Offline
                oldskoolflash
                last edited by 4 Mar 2016, 12:12

                Thanks for this, how do I activate the toolbar set for this?

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                • T Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 4 Mar 2016, 12:49

                  @oldskoolflash said:

                  Thanks for this, how do I activate the toolbar set for this?
                  You can't !
                  It doesn't have a toolbar - there is just a menu entry.

                  TIG

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                  • R Offline
                    Roky
                    last edited by 30 Mar 2016, 06:53

                    Easy to Use, Well done. worked in Sketchup 2016

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                    • mariochaM Offline
                      mariocha
                      last edited by 26 May 2016, 20:38

                      Here is a "LangHandlered" version of it.
                      Had to modify some strings.
                      French included.
                      Only thing not completely translated is the last check, for slight skew. I could not reproduce the error case.


                      PipeAlongPath.rbz

                      %(#008000)[Mario C.
                      Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                      • Y Offline
                        yingishere
                        last edited by 17 Jul 2017, 23:53

                        Thanks

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                        • TampaPowersT Offline
                          TampaPowers
                          last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 20:49

                          Just installed in 2018, causes a crash.

                          Sketchup Community Discord

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                          • T Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 21:05

                            @tampapowers said:

                            Just installed in 2018, causes a crash.
                            I just tried using it in v2018... and it worked just fine.
                            What settings are you using ?
                            What's the preselected path like ?
                            A simple example SKP might help...

                            TIG

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                            • TampaPowersT Offline
                              TampaPowers
                              last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 03:41

                              This is the path: https://i.imgur.com/HOQ8AC1.png
                              Settings are: https://i.imgur.com/6EdzK9f.png

                              Sketchup Community Discord

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                              • T Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 13:54

                                You can attach images and SKPs to your post.
                                Without a SKP I can't be 100% sure, but I suspect you are falling foul of the tiny geometry issues that SketchUp has, that is if two points are within SketchUp's built-in tolerance of 1/1000".
                                Then it cannot make that edge and any related face[s] can't then be made either !
                                Your outer diameter of 3mm and internal diameter of 1mm will most likely try to produce some tiny facets - especially when you give it 12 sides, and it is following that very wavy path, which itself I guess has several small segments per wave ?

                                The way to make something this small is as follows...

                                • Create the path.
                                • Make a component of it.
                                • Make a copy to one side.
                                • Scale the copy up by say x1000.
                                • Re-zoom extents so that you see the giant copy.
                                • Edit the copy and select the path.
                                • Use the PipeAlongPath tool, adjusting the settings by the scale-factor - e.g. 3mm >>> 3m
                                • When the pipe is successfully made, exit the edit and delete the giant copy.
                                • Re-zoom to look at the normal sized instance and the very tiny geometry will be OK.
                                  Tiny geometry can exist, but you cannot create it at the tiny dimensions.

                                Note that this tiny-geometry tolerance issue can affect many operations in SketchUp and its Extensions - the above fix works for all such cases...
                                Any operation that might make tiny edges - like an intersect-with etc - benefits from this workaround...

                                TIG

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                                • TampaPowersT Offline
                                  TampaPowers
                                  last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 16:30

                                  Scaled up by a factor of 100 it no longer crashes. Maybe build in an error if things get too small so it does not immediately crash?

                                  Sketchup Community Discord

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                                  • T Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 17:02

                                    It already has some traps.
                                    For example if you do a right-angle bend with a very segmented pipe below a diameter of about 200mm the tiny inner facets will fail.
                                    It warns you.

                                    However the permutations of paths and diameters make it awkward to trap all situations - letting the user use their brains is good idea [IMHO]...
                                    The scaling up temporarily is a well known workaround for such potential problems, applicable in many situations...

                                    TIG

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                                    • C Offline
                                      ct103stu0
                                      last edited by 31 May 2021, 00:53

                                      Thanks for this Plugin, it has made a huge difference in time to create piping schematics. I am trying to create elbows. I first tried creating arcs, and that works but difficult to create consistent configurations. I am now trying Fredo Corner and not having any luck. Can you suggest a method that would produce consistent elbow configurations. Thanks.

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by 31 May 2021, 01:40

                                        @ct103stu0 said:

                                        Can you suggest a method that would produce consistent elbow configurations. Thanks.

                                        Can you share an example .skp file that shows what you are trying to do?

                                        What version of SketchUp are you using? Is it still SU8 Free/Make as your profile indicates?

                                        Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                        • R Offline
                                          rehman1212
                                          last edited by 26 Jan 2023, 18:25

                                          plugin not working in 2019 version

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