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    • jo-keJ Offline
      jo-ke
      last edited by

      still testing the options....

      I just started to combine render and AI.

      rendering cloth in wardrobes has really bad results, because of low resolution models. If I would take better models for cloth the filesize would rise enormously.

      AI does really a goof job in makeing realisic cloth and a bad job in doing the rest in desired materials and colors.

      so I took my render with the right setting for my wardrobe and took the cloth of the stablediffusion output and merge them in Photoshop:

      unfortunately I can't export my POV Camera to twinmotion. this would be helpfull for later work in photoshop


      su view


      stable diffusion


      twinmotion


      merging AI and render in Photoshop

      http://www.zz7.de

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      • L Offline
        L i am
        last edited by

        Wow the first one is so impressive ๐Ÿ‘ Scarily so ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        • ntxdaveN Offline
          ntxdave
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          @l i am said:

          Wow the first one is so impressive ๐Ÿ‘ Scarily so ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Yup!

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          • jo-keJ Offline
            jo-ke
            last edited by

            another one. diffusion is the loser in this case.

            this time twinmotion wins.

            all renders optimised in photoshop


            su


            twinmotion


            twilightrender


            su diffusion and stable diffusion

            http://www.zz7.de

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Why not try the Free Vizcom online ?
              So easy to use! ๐Ÿ˜Ž And the first on this concept domain...
              Team of 2 persons in free!
              No limit of number images
              Only limit is one image proposition by render (Pro 4)
              From your image B&W
              But you can import a 3D model... (obj format)

              vizcom.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                you can of course all detail...or modify by prompt...
                InPainting (G)

                test2.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • jo-keJ Offline
                  jo-ke
                  last edited by

                  hmmm. I think su diffusion does a better job, what I can see.

                  http://www.zz7.de

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    from your 2D image &W

                    https://images2.imgbox.com/14/20/NWz7BtHs_o.gif

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      Seems there is no change between original and render ...

                      https://images2.imgbox.com/50/66/N2FRQxzc_o.gif

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • jo-keJ Offline
                        jo-ke
                        last edited by

                        This one looks better.

                        My general problem with AI is, that I have to less control over the result.

                        In my case, I want to sell a shelf or a wardrobe and it has to be a consistant look.

                        But AI does a wonderfull job in textiles and Lightning.

                        So I am trying to combine them in Photoshop.

                        http://www.zz7.de

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Yep even some ai accept 3D input files i am quasi sure this 3D is translated in 2D before any process... in some months maybe this will be changed...

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • jo-keJ Offline
                            jo-ke
                            last edited by

                            mixing AI and render in photoshop is a really good workflow:

                            especially the textiles come out much better


                            render


                            ai


                            mix

                            http://www.zz7.de

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Have you try Krea ai or Magnific ai for enhance the first ai result ?
                              (Magnific ai has not try version) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • jo-keJ Offline
                                jo-ke
                                last edited by

                                @pilou said:

                                Have you try Krea ai or Magnific ai for enhance the first ai result ?
                                (Magnific ai has not try version) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                the pic above is the plain output of Sketchup Diffusion.

                                Sometimes I am using Stable diffusion to develop the pics further.

                                Stable Diffusion is a strong tool with many options to change the style and details of any pictures.

                                I didn't try the apps you mentioned

                                http://www.zz7.de

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                                • L Offline
                                  L i am
                                  last edited by

                                  Very interesting thread jo-ke ๐Ÿ‘ So from what I understand you use sketchup diffusion and then put it through Stable diffusion? Could you please give examples of your prompts agian? I mean prompts for the bookcase room divider Prompts into Su diffusion and then how you did the enhancment in SD. I certainly seems the best sulution by the look of those images. And I think this is early days for AI. Seems you and and Pilou are ahead of the pack. I don't/did not like the concept of AI but that is Dinosaur thinking. Embrace it or become ectinct ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    From your little "ai render" in the free Krea !

                                    https://images2.imgbox.com/b4/39/sqqjujl9_o.gif

                                    Link Preview Image

                                    Krea images are given in PNG (transformed here in jpg for less size!

                                    https://images2.imgbox.com/7c/94/dMftW6rB_o.jpg

                                    https://images2.imgbox.com/ec/81/VdknclQx_o.jpg

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      From the little pure "render" in the Free Krea

                                      https://images2.imgbox.com/9b/b7/IhvqQHIN_o.gif

                                      https://images2.imgbox.com/cd/5f/Jj1pQCh7_o.gif

                                      https://images2.imgbox.com/af/45/pazWaPFq_o.jpg

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        From the little "mix" inside the free Krea
                                        (the before / after is made directly by Krea )
                                        Ps Magnific is even better (but can't try it...

                                        https://images2.imgbox.com/0a/48/cfvzjbQT_o.gif

                                        https://images2.imgbox.com/03/24/uxUyg6h9_o.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • jo-keJ Offline
                                          jo-ke
                                          last edited by

                                          wow. really good results, but many changes in geometrie: wrong lamps, wrnog meterials....

                                          I think this is going to be the future

                                          http://www.zz7.de

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                                          • jo-keJ Offline
                                            jo-ke
                                            last edited by

                                            @l i am said:

                                            Very interesting thread jo-ke ๐Ÿ‘ So from what I understand you use sketchup diffusion and then put it through Stable diffusion? Could you please give examples of your prompts agian? I mean prompts for the bookcase room divider Prompts into Su diffusion and then how you did the enhancment in SD. I certainly seems the best sulution by the look of those images. And I think this is early days for AI. Seems you and and Pilou are ahead of the pack. I don't/did not like the concept of AI but that is Dinosaur thinking. Embrace it or become ectinct ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                            now i took the render to stable diffusion img2img
                                            my prompt is:
                                            photography, concrete wall, wooden floor, low light lora:more_details:1 lora:LowRA:1.1
                                            these are two Loras to change the look of my image
                                            cfg: 3, denoise 0.3

                                            then i took the image to photoshop. and made an overlay (soft light) with the sketchup diffsuion render.

                                            The best thing on this method: all geometrie is kept, as I want them to have and the render looks more realistic but with the materials, that I want to have in my render.

                                            My main problem with AI is that they change items and materials, we have not much control. that is the reason, I need the render. I combine them to have both: my modell and material and better textiles an light from AI.


                                            02149pp.jpg

                                            http://www.zz7.de

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