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    • jo-keJ Offline
      jo-ke
      last edited by

      another one. diffusion is the loser in this case.

      this time twinmotion wins.

      all renders optimised in photoshop


      su


      twinmotion


      twilightrender


      su diffusion and stable diffusion

      http://www.zz7.de

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        Why not try the Free Vizcom online ?
        So easy to use! ๐Ÿ˜Ž And the first on this concept domain...
        Team of 2 persons in free!
        No limit of number images
        Only limit is one image proposition by render (Pro 4)
        From your image B&W
        But you can import a 3D model... (obj format)

        vizcom.jpg

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        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          you can of course all detail...or modify by prompt...
          InPainting (G)

          test2.jpg

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          • jo-keJ Offline
            jo-ke
            last edited by

            hmmm. I think su diffusion does a better job, what I can see.

            http://www.zz7.de

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              from your 2D image &W

              https://images2.imgbox.com/14/20/NWz7BtHs_o.gif

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                Seems there is no change between original and render ...

                https://images2.imgbox.com/50/66/N2FRQxzc_o.gif

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                • jo-keJ Offline
                  jo-ke
                  last edited by

                  This one looks better.

                  My general problem with AI is, that I have to less control over the result.

                  In my case, I want to sell a shelf or a wardrobe and it has to be a consistant look.

                  But AI does a wonderfull job in textiles and Lightning.

                  So I am trying to combine them in Photoshop.

                  http://www.zz7.de

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Yep even some ai accept 3D input files i am quasi sure this 3D is translated in 2D before any process... in some months maybe this will be changed...

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                    • jo-keJ Offline
                      jo-ke
                      last edited by

                      mixing AI and render in photoshop is a really good workflow:

                      especially the textiles come out much better


                      render


                      ai


                      mix

                      http://www.zz7.de

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Have you try Krea ai or Magnific ai for enhance the first ai result ?
                        (Magnific ai has not try version) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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                        • jo-keJ Offline
                          jo-ke
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                          @pilou said:

                          Have you try Krea ai or Magnific ai for enhance the first ai result ?
                          (Magnific ai has not try version) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                          the pic above is the plain output of Sketchup Diffusion.

                          Sometimes I am using Stable diffusion to develop the pics further.

                          Stable Diffusion is a strong tool with many options to change the style and details of any pictures.

                          I didn't try the apps you mentioned

                          http://www.zz7.de

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                          • L Offline
                            L i am
                            last edited by

                            Very interesting thread jo-ke ๐Ÿ‘ So from what I understand you use sketchup diffusion and then put it through Stable diffusion? Could you please give examples of your prompts agian? I mean prompts for the bookcase room divider Prompts into Su diffusion and then how you did the enhancment in SD. I certainly seems the best sulution by the look of those images. And I think this is early days for AI. Seems you and and Pilou are ahead of the pack. I don't/did not like the concept of AI but that is Dinosaur thinking. Embrace it or become ectinct ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              From your little "ai render" in the free Krea !

                              https://images2.imgbox.com/b4/39/sqqjujl9_o.gif

                              Link Preview Image

                              Krea images are given in PNG (transformed here in jpg for less size!

                              https://images2.imgbox.com/7c/94/dMftW6rB_o.jpg

                              https://images2.imgbox.com/ec/81/VdknclQx_o.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                From the little pure "render" in the Free Krea

                                https://images2.imgbox.com/9b/b7/IhvqQHIN_o.gif

                                https://images2.imgbox.com/cd/5f/Jj1pQCh7_o.gif

                                https://images2.imgbox.com/af/45/pazWaPFq_o.jpg

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  From the little "mix" inside the free Krea
                                  (the before / after is made directly by Krea )
                                  Ps Magnific is even better (but can't try it...

                                  https://images2.imgbox.com/0a/48/cfvzjbQT_o.gif

                                  https://images2.imgbox.com/03/24/uxUyg6h9_o.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • jo-keJ Offline
                                    jo-ke
                                    last edited by

                                    wow. really good results, but many changes in geometrie: wrong lamps, wrnog meterials....

                                    I think this is going to be the future

                                    http://www.zz7.de

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                                      jo-ke
                                      last edited by

                                      @l i am said:

                                      Very interesting thread jo-ke ๐Ÿ‘ So from what I understand you use sketchup diffusion and then put it through Stable diffusion? Could you please give examples of your prompts agian? I mean prompts for the bookcase room divider Prompts into Su diffusion and then how you did the enhancment in SD. I certainly seems the best sulution by the look of those images. And I think this is early days for AI. Seems you and and Pilou are ahead of the pack. I don't/did not like the concept of AI but that is Dinosaur thinking. Embrace it or become ectinct ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                      now i took the render to stable diffusion img2img
                                      my prompt is:
                                      photography, concrete wall, wooden floor, low light lora:more_details:1 lora:LowRA:1.1
                                      these are two Loras to change the look of my image
                                      cfg: 3, denoise 0.3

                                      then i took the image to photoshop. and made an overlay (soft light) with the sketchup diffsuion render.

                                      The best thing on this method: all geometrie is kept, as I want them to have and the render looks more realistic but with the materials, that I want to have in my render.

                                      My main problem with AI is that they change items and materials, we have not much control. that is the reason, I need the render. I combine them to have both: my modell and material and better textiles an light from AI.


                                      02149pp.jpg

                                      http://www.zz7.de

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        From your "Mix" it's so easy inside the free Vizcom! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                                        100%, 50%, 25%, 10% Drawing Influence - Mode Refine
                                        (animation is just Gif Screens Shoots by display the Layers! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        https://images2.imgbox.com/70/72/6vDfaTub_o.gif

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • soloS Offline
                                          solo
                                          last edited by

                                          So, this whole AI thing may be more than a fad? ๐Ÿ’š

                                          http://www.solos-art.com

                                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                          • jo-keJ Offline
                                            jo-ke
                                            last edited by

                                            this is exactly the problem...

                                            nice pictures, indeed, but not what I need.

                                            My custumer has his room, I have my items to sell. Each have a special look.

                                            I need to combine them in a photorealistic look for my customer to sell my items.

                                            In this case my customer has that room and a bed with a wooden frame. I want to sell the lamps and the chesterfeild textile wall.

                                            so, I need exactly that in a photorealsitc picture.


                                            real photo of the room

                                            http://www.zz7.de

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