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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      If you have not the pro version for Boolean operations you have Bool Tools 2
      (powerful than native tools)

      Frenchy Pilou
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        ntxdave
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        More Good videos Box and Pilou. Thanks for sharing.

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          thegoodguy
          last edited by

          @pilou said:

          Can't reload your last skp ! (save as 2016 as previous) πŸ˜‰

          Hi pilou,

          The last skp I uploaded (follow-me-problem-2.skp) was in 2016 format πŸ˜•

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            thegoodguy
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            Wow!

            I kind of owe you all a little apology. The rectangular profile was super-simplified to illustrate the problem. I realise now that the impacts any solutions you guys may post. The actual profile I want to use is this:
            profile.JPG

            Box; As I mentioned in my initial post, I tried Upright Extruder. It produces results much like the vertex option. It's good, but not perfect. The edge-extrusion/joint-push-pull produces similar results too, and also, I don't think that option would work with the profile I need. True-Bend is a great suggestion. After "flattening" the ring rail/path using the Unfold tool, producing a flattened complete ring using follow-me and the profile, and then using True-Bend, I'm getting exactly what I need.
            flat-ring.JPG

            The only issue I'm having now is the final solid isn't the "solid" that's needed for 3D-printing. There are many errors that Solid-Inspector finds. I know this is due to the high resultion I need to get a good final result when the ring is actually cast. I'm experimenting with scaling up before True-Bending. Hopefully that will solve the solid issue.

            Thank you all for your input, suggestions and solutions. They've been v helpful and have reduced my headache πŸ˜„

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              pilou
              last edited by

              And why not use Curviloft for propagate some profils on rails?

              Frenchy Pilou
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                thegoodguy
                last edited by

                And the winner is ... Curviloft

                Excellent solution pilou. Thank you v much. The perfect shape and a perfect solid with no complex intersections to fix.

                winner.JPG

                Should fit snuggly against this lovely little Edwardian engagement ring.

                ring.jpg

                Thanks again, everyone.

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  If you are doing a lot of jewelry it would be well worth your time to look into using vertex tools and true bend. It makes it easy to create rings from non symmetric geometry. And you can be as detailed as you need as long as you model cleanly. This required no cleanup after the bend except the removal of the double inner faces at the join. I only used 96 segments but you can easily go to the 200 you were using if need be.

                  https://i.imgur.com/dNgiCt6.gif

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                    thegoodguy
                    last edited by

                    Hi again,

                    Upon closer inspection, although the solidness is good and the profile alignment is good along all of the "straight" section of the rail, using Curviloft, the profile does twist on the shaped part of the rail. Back to TrueBend and solid-fixing. Scaling up x1000 reduced the errors to only 3 ... phew.

                    Just thought you might like to know.

                    x-section-curviloft.JPG

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                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      Maybe we can try something...
                      Post the file of Profils and Rails in dxf format and let see that Moi3D (nurbs) will made as result in SKP format export...

                      ...not sure...of the result πŸ˜„ (it's not your file just a test)

                      Here the structure of export SKP

                      humhum.jpg

                      Reloaded in SU
                      more_poly1jpg.jpg

                      I must ask more polygons in export! πŸ€“ (rendered as SKP file)

                      morepoly.jpg

                      This time edges are perfect! (for an SKP file) πŸ˜„

                      more poly2.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
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                        thegoodguy
                        last edited by

                        Hi pilou,

                        Rail and profile DXF file uploaded.

                        Thanks


                        rail+profile.zip

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                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          Next version of Moi (V4) will be more adapted for erase problems of the DXF!

                          Another thing : i must reduce the number of Control Points of the curves!
                          Or even redraw over it...
                          (Whithout change the form of course! )

                          GIF_numerous points.gif

                          GIF_numerouspts2.gif

                          sharp_angle.jpg

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                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            OK: reloadable! πŸ˜„

                            Just a question : does the section is on the good place or must be placed like that ?
                            Or by it's gravity's center ?

                            GIF_as_that.gif

                            Frenchy Pilou
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                              thegoodguy
                              last edited by

                              Looks good pilou.

                              I finally got it done using TrueBend.

                              Thanks.

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                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                With section on the middle side ... path with 20 points against 200 points! πŸ˜‰

                                https://images2.imgbox.com/6d/47/hMrcKzRK_o.gif

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Just for be sure : your dxf was made directly from SketchUP or from another program ?

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    Many regulates can be done... πŸ˜‰
                                    This structure will be the SKP structure! πŸ€“

                                    https://images2.imgbox.com/da/64/BAQAY5NM_o.gif

                                    Here one...(skp file rendered)

                                    https://images2.imgbox.com/2d/cf/OGGhxqR7_o.jpg

                                    ps SKP linked


                                    pinky_ring.zip

                                    Frenchy Pilou
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                                      thegoodguy
                                      last edited by

                                      @pilou said:

                                      Just for be sure : your dxf was made directly from SketchUP or from another program ?

                                      Hi pilou,

                                      Yes, it was exported from SU.

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                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        Thx for the info!

                                        Dxf from SketchUp are specific because curves are polylines so numerous "control points" !
                                        Maybe Circles and Arcs can be exported as real curves...

                                        With this one by Joergberg πŸ€“ (for SU Make)
                                        So circles and arcs are not "segmented" ! 😎
                                        dxf.jpg

                                        As we can see for the circle...that is a true curve!
                                        dxf1.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
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                                        My Little site :)

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