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    • StinkieS 離線
      Stinkie
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      @jql said:

      So, we could reverse all this discourse and say: why aren't the other 3d modellers intuitive like sketchup?

      Because those are capable of doing complex stuff. Stuff that just isn't intuitive.

      As per hipster law, I hereby include a picture that adds a certain ironic je ne sais quoi to my -obviously insightful- comment.


      1501860226206-01_zeeprikken.jpeg

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      • andybotA 離線
        andybot
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        Well Stinkie, I think you've jumped the lamprey on this thread.

        http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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        • JQLJ 離線
          JQL
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          Well I guess most of us aren't happy with sketchup, yet I find it very useful and am happy with it, even with all the limitations it has.

          www.casca.pt
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          • chippwaltersC 離線
            chippwalters
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            @jql said:

            Well I guess most of us aren't happy with sketchup, yet I find it very useful and am happy with it, even with all the limitations it has.

            Most insightful comment 😄

            Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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            • V 離線
              valerostudio
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              @jql said:

              Well I guess most of us aren't happy with sketchup, yet I find it very useful and am happy with it, even with all the limitations it has.

              For what I do, I am 95% happy with SketchUp and I don't ever see myself not being a user but I would like to push on the topic of why can't the viewport handle (even with the beefiest of GPUs) a high polygon model imported into it?

              That's all I am asking in this thread. It has been proven by dozens of pieces of software that it can be done. Why can't SketchUp do it, and why can't that issue be fixed? Remember when we were stuck in 32bit? That was addressed (thank God).

              This is the next big fix, and I say "fix", not a feature, not a plugin, not a new UI or redesign, a FIX. Because as far as I am concerned it's a bug. Without enough understanding of the technology, I honestly wonder if it is an OpenGL thing.

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              • V 離線
                valerostudio
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                I just read that Apple with deprecate OpenGL in Mojave... so maybe a rebuild will be on the way?

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                • PixeroP 離線
                  Pixero
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                  A few years back I was expecting and anticipating a lot for each new release...and got very disappointed when it didn't live up to my hopes and expectations.
                  Now I'm not so disappointed anymore.
                  I came to the conclusion that I shouldn't expect anything for the next version.
                  SketchUp IS still a great modelling app and my preferred 3d tool for what I do but I now believe that it will never be what I had hoped.
                  It's not what I want, but not expecting it to become what I want has made my life a little easier.

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                  • pbacotP 離線
                    pbacot
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                    @pixero said:

                    A few years back I was expecting and anticipating a lot for each new release...and got very disappointed when it didn't live up to my hopes and expectations.
                    Now I'm not so disappointed anymore.
                    I came to the conclusion that I shouldn't expect anything for the next version.
                    SketchUp IS still a great modelling app and my preferred 3d tool for what I do but I now believe that it will never be what I had hoped.
                    It's not what I want, but not expecting it to become what I want has made my life a little easier.

                    that's sort of where I'm at. I just feel sad sometimes I can't finish a project without the slow-downs and workarounds. And I am not at all into advanced modeling (nurbs, quads, whatever). But it has enabled me to do a lot of things over the years and I also see it is good for a lot of people who don't have the time to delve into modeling expertise, but still want some sort of 3d design.

                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    • david_hD 離線
                      david_h
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                      @pixero said:

                      A few years back I was expecting and anticipating a lot for each new release...and got very disappointed when it didn't live up to my hopes and expectations.
                      Now I'm not so disappointed anymore.
                      I came to the conclusion that I shouldn't expect anything for the next version.
                      SketchUp IS still a great modelling app and my preferred 3d tool for what I do but I now believe that it will never be what I had hoped.
                      It's not what I want, but not expecting it to become what I want has made my life a little easier.

                      a lot like life. 💚

                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                      • K 離線
                        kaas
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                        @valerostudio said:

                        I just read that Apple with deprecate OpenGL in Mojave... so maybe a rebuild will be on the way?

                        a web based version 😒

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                        • david_hD 離線
                          david_h
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                          So . .. i just re-upped my maintenance license--

                          so what if they're still just the pull-up Training pants.

                          I just feel more comfortable It's what works for me.

                          Can you tell I have a toddler grandson? 💚

                          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                          • JQLJ 離線
                            JQL
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                            @valerostudio said:

                            That's all I am asking in this thread.

                            Yes, I know, but I think the naming of the thread is attracting rant.

                            I too want millions of polys but I don't want, with that, to loose everything else.

                            What I'm saying is that for me, the limitations it has, don't surplant it's potential. What I do with it is not less nor more than what I need.

                            Layout in the other hand... But this thread is aimed at archviz, which I also dwelve in and Layout is out of this.

                            Anyway, just wanted to state that sketchup is more than a specific user's needs.

                            www.casca.pt
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                            • D 離線
                              David.P
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                              @pixero said:

                              About the slowness I've read here somewhere before that it is because SU is using the inference engine all the time.
                              I usually hide all edges on imported highres geometry which makes it a bit faster.

                              Exactly. Note that if no drawing tool is selected (only a viewing tool like hand etc.), panning and zooming a complex model already gets MUCH faster.

                              If edges are not shown at all, handling a complex model for me jumps from around 3 jerky fps to a completely smooth ~60fps.

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