SketchUp 2018
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@david. said:
@charlie__v said:
@david. said:
My 3DConnexion SpaceNavigator doesn't work with 2018. Seems like this happened with 2017, too. I currently can't connect to 3DConnexion.com to check for updated drivers.
David,
I updated my 3DXware to latest and it did not make my SpaceNaivagtor kick on in SU 2018. (& yes this happened w/SU 2017 as well....a later update from 3DX ware did support 2017)So: I copied over the Folder: 3DxSketchUp & 3DxSketchUp.rb from my 2017 SU Plugins folder.
File path for 2017: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp\Plugins
**SU 2018 did not have a Plugin folder in the following location so you will have to create one.
File path for 2018: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2018\SketchUp\Plugins
C
Charlie,
That worked for me. Thanks!
Oh good......because I just now noticed small typo on the file path to 2018......fixed now via forum edit.
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@david. said:
My 3DConnexion SpaceNavigator doesn't work with 2018. Seems like this happened with 2017, too. I currently can't connect to 3DConnexion.com to check for updated drivers.
David,
I updated my 3DXware to latest and it did not make my SpaceNaivagtor kick on in SU 2018. (& yes this happened w/SU 2017 as well....a later update from 3DX ware did support 2017)So: I copied over the Folder: 3DxSketchUp & 3DxSketchUp.rb from my 2017 SU Plugins folder.
File path for 2017: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2017\SketchUp\Plugins
**SU 2018 did not have a Plugin folder in the following location so you will have to create one.
File path for 2018: C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2018\SketchUp\Plugins
C
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They are trying to force people to eventually buy the pro version. Sketchup Make will eventually become obsolete and inefficient compared to the newer versions. Eventually, newer plugins will become incompatible with the old SketchUp make.
Let's not kid ourselfs. Sketchup free is NOT a replacement for make (at least in its current state). They completely misunderstood what made SketchUp so attractive in the first place; it was its ease of use and how powerful it was thanks to its plugins. Without these extensions, sketchup would have been forgotten in obscurity and it would have never achieved the acceptance it has today. Only simple models would have been possible and it would have been too inefficient for anything more complex. These extensions were easy to use and fit into SketchUp's philosophy well.
Sketchup free is a purely business move. It has been completely gimped in order to force people into pro subscriptions. They took away features under the excuse of making it easier and more accessible to use. While truthfully they made complex models even harder to create. Even an advert supported Sketchup make 2018 (advert on startup) would have been a better idea then the online free version.
The current trajectory will most likely lead to a reduction of hobby users which would eventually reduce the number of extensions in development. Which will lead to a decline in pro users. Even kids will move on from FREE as they eventually will want to create more complex creations (when I was 14, it was only a week before I downloaded my first plugin).
And even if someday they add extensions to SketchUp Free, it's online only.
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As a business, I suppose they don't have any other reason to make moves other than business moves. I think the free version was good for business, but I suppose they've done more homework than simply "I think...."
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@chrisjk said:
SU 2018 appears to be available in Oz.
Dunno if this is spoof or real...
Is that really all that is new in 2018? Just new types of sections? Seriously? There's gotta be something I'm missing here. If that's the only change, why bother upgrading? There were so many things requested in the 2018 wish list forum post on the Sketchup forums. Did they even look at it?
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@deadtaco said:
There were so many things requested in the 2018 wish list forum post on the Sketchup forums. Did they even look at it?
I'm lead to believe they couldn't as Make was standing in the way.
LOL
Now seriously. Sketchup 8 is still free to use commercially. Make 2017 will be free to use for several years for hobbyists (though it's used by pros too, and that's the reality). Sketchup Free will keep being around and developed. Eventually it will get extensions too.
Let the focus be on Pro.
I'm an architect by the way. Layout is a main part of what I do. It's getting better by the year.
I also see better plugins every year and most of them solve most things being said here. These happen, I believe, due to a lot of work on the API side.
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@pbacot said:
As a business, I suppose they don't have any other reason to make moves other than business moves. I think the free version was good for business, but I suppose they've done more homework than simply "I think...."
There been quite a few cases were businesses got it completely wrong with dire consequences.
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@jql said:
@deadtaco said:
There were so many things requested in the 2018 wish list forum post on the Sketchup forums. Did they even look at it?
I'm lead to believe they couldn't as Make was standing in the way.
LOL
Now seriously. Sketchup 8 is still free to use commercially. Make 2017 will be free to use for several years for hobbyists (though it's used by pros too, and that's the reality). Sketchup Free will keep being around and developed. Eventually it will get extensions too.
Let the focus be on Pro.
I'm an architect by the way. Layout is a main part of what I do. It's getting better by the year.
I also see better plugins every year and most of them solve most things being said here. These happen, I believe, due to a lot of work on the API side.
Sketchup free will take more resources away from the offline PRO. It is a completely different beast, most likely runs on a different code (html5). Not to mention that if they add extensions to Free, they will most likely be incompatible with the offline PRO. It would split developers between two bases.
Make was just pro with layout, style builder and a few features locked behind a paywall; that barely took any resources away. -
I agree with you Master... (bowing head) The future of Make though, is limited in growth. The future of a web based Sketchup, we don't know.
In the past Make and Pro were riding side by side. Consider two branches now. Offline and Online.
Where they will meet again in the future we don't know but it might have some potential.
The thing is that Pro was never distant enough from free. Now it is.
Unfortunatelly this distance wasn't acomplished through breaking ground with new and good for all features, but with cutting down weight.
I too long for UV mapping. For real management of sections. For a streamlined relationship between Sketchup and Layout. For a Layout that truly allows us to draw and tag the model as Pros do. For huge bigger models. Seamless import of any formats. Maneageable billions of polys...
Eventually what I really need is way better plugins to get more pro features that we lack in Sketchup.
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This year's version was so lackluster they didn't even bother make a what's new video about it.
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@wiskill said:
This year's version was so lackluster they didn't even bother make a what's new video about it.
I don't know hey, I watched no less than two clips on Youtube last night, by SketchUp themselves (there are others), about new features.
Please get your facts straight.
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@masterpaul said:
Sketchup free will take more resources away from the offline PRO. It is a completely different beast, most likely runs on a different code (html5).
No, the core code is the same, only the UI differs. Any improvement made to the core will benefit both platforms.
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@jiminy-billy-bob said:
@masterpaul said:
Sketchup free will take more resources away from the offline PRO. It is a completely different beast, most likely runs on a different code (html5).
No, the core code is the same, only the UI differs. Any improvement made to the core will benefit both platforms.
If the core code is the same, adding support for extensions to the web version would be possible, right?
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Oooh a sketchup on Android!
Just ran the free on Chrome on my galaxy s8... Teeny glitches, but runs!
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Well. Other than a version I can run on my phone or tablet.... Pretty much can stay on the previous version. Here's to feature stagnation...
(and time to start learning a new modeler as insurance... Shame....)
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And the first question again.
- The first image has these arrows. I had them in 2017, I just thought they were part of some plugin that I had downloaded. Never could find the plugin. Now that I have downloaded 2018, and had no plugins installed, I see they come with the program.
So, what are they and what is their use?
Damn, cannot get this image to download, either as a jpg or a png.
So the arrows are on each side, and four arrows in the center.
Not sure why I can't upload this image.
Ken
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Good morning
I have two questions.
First question in next reply.
- Below is two images. Seem computer and the same setup. However a radial different view of a box. The box is 10"x10"x10" at the center of the screen and rotated 45 degrees. Notice anything wrong?
So the question is, is there something I am missing in the setup besides the OpenGL Setting.
Well, I guess I can only add two images.
First image 2017
Second image 2018
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@unknownuser said:
And the first question again.
- The first image has these arrows. I had them in 2017, I just thought they were part of some plugin that I had downloaded. Never could find the plugin. Now that I have downloaded 2018, and had no plugins installed, I see they come with the program.
So, what are they and what is their use?
Damn, cannot get this image to download, either as a jpg or a png.
So the arrows are on each side, and four arrows in the center.
Not sure why I can't upload this image.
Ken
Do these appear when you attempt to organize trays?
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@unknownuser said:
Good morning
I have two questions.
First question in next reply.
- Below is two images. Seem computer and the same setup. However a radial different view of a box. The box is 10"x10"x10" at the center of the screen and rotated 45 degrees. Notice anything wrong?
So the question is, is there something I am missing in the setup besides the OpenGL Setting.
Well, I guess I can only add two images.
First image 2017
Second image 2018
Make sure have these (see image below) set the same between the two...
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@juju said:
@wiskill said:
This year's version was so lackluster they didn't even bother make a what's new video about it.
I don't know hey, I watched no less than two clips on Youtube last night, by SketchUp themselves (there are others), about new features.
Please get your facts straight.
You mean the two short videos showing barely any reason to upgrade to 2018?
At least last year had a "Sketchup 2017:What's new?" video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QDjJ67b3kA&
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