Medeek Wall Plugin
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@medeek said:
I can change up a number of parameters to improve the aesthetics if there is call for it.
I have to say that (as an architect
) i don't really like those arrows. I would prefer strokes. And the text aligned to the dimension line, like in Revit for example... https://youtu.be/hdgyZd_EiD4?t=89I really enjoy watching your progress in this thread!
It would be great if Trimble would show only a fraction of this speed and transparency in their development.I think you're doing a great job and i really would like to buy your wall plugin, but for my work it's too specific and limited. The design of the wall features and components doesn't fit my work and i think I would need a more flexible and customizable approach regarding doors, windows and stairs, like custom components.
I know it would be a completely different thing and much more elaborate, but it would be great if there would be some kind of parametric component like in Revit or Acad. I don't know if this would be possible as a plugin, but maybe this could be developed as a separate plugin for parametric components in general and then linked to the door/window function... just dreaming -
What I really need to do is enable some additional options in the global settings for construction dimensions:
Color: RGB value
Endpoints: Closed Arrow / Tick
Text Size: 14 Pts default
Also the ability to enable or disable them.
The color will also apply to other temporary dimensions and graphics utilized in the wall move and opening move tools, as well as the upcoming stretch wall tool.
I think it is imperative that I allow the user to set the color so that they can find an appropriate color to work well in their particular style. It would be very bad if the dimension color and the background color were too close and the user could not distinguish between them.
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Version 0.9.9t - 12.09.2018
- Enabled temporary (construction) dimensions for wall panels in the Draw Wall tool.
- Added a section in the General tab of the global settings for configuring construction dimensions.
I've also added the option for closed arrows, open arrows and ticks:
Note the larger text size set to 18PT versus 14PT in the previous to screenshots:
The endpoint, color and text size of the dimensions can be configured in the General tab of the global settings:
Hopefully this is flexible enough for most users. Alternatively you can also turn off the construction dimensions if you would rather not have them displayed.
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Figured I might as well add construction dimensions to the beam and stair modules:
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Now this is the way to install stairs:
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Tutorial 7 - Stairs (23:19 min.)
Unfortunately there is just too much information to convey regarding this new module and the video doesn't really dive deep enough into all of the details and options, but hopefully this will be enough of a primer for getting started with stairs.
I also discuss the new wall isolation concept in some detail in this video.
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For CMU I actually use two textures/materials to simulate the look and feel of CMU brick. One for the vertical faces and one for the faces normal to the vertical (horizontal faces). I could add a couple parameters in the materials tab of the global settings which allows the user to select their own material for these two face orientations for the CMU framing option.
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As many of you know I am currently programming the plugins full time (ie. its my only income). As such my wife and I sat down yesterday to review the progress made on the plugins in the last year and our prospects moving forward into 2019. As I have previously mentioned I will be re-assessing my pricing and licensing as we bring the Wall plugin out of BETA.
As much as I detest subscription licensing that seems to be the direction I need to be going otherwise I will not be able to keep working on the plugins full time. I am not a huge fan of any form of subscription licensing, I prefer to BUY a product not lease or rent it. This is why I have remained at odds with going to this form of licensing even though it does make financial sense and would give me more stability and resources to continue further with the development.
I guess my biggest issue with subscription licensing is that if your subscription lapses then you are essentially locked out of any of your previous work/projects. I can totally understand the frustration with something like this, for many including myself it is a deal breaker.
After pondering this problem with this form of licensing it occurred to me that maybe one could set it up in such a way that all of the editing and misc. functionality of the plugin is retained even when the license has lapsed however the ability to draw new geometry (assemblies) would be limited. In other words you could still use the plugin to edit existing walls, beams, stairs, windows doors etc... However you would not be able to draw new elements or assemblies unless the license was active.
Let me know if such a compromise with regards to adopting subscription licensing would be acceptable.
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As long as there is a perpetual licensing model with maintenance option (and it is in line with your current pricing trends) I'll be fine. I stay away from subscription based licensing models (to put it mildly).
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Version 0.9.9u - 12.22.2018
- Enabled temporary (construction) dimensions for beams in the Draw Beam tool.
- Enabled temporary (construction) dimensions for stairs in the Draw Stair tool.
- Added 2D construction lines for exterior wainscoting.
- When the cladding or wainscoting air gap is greater than zero the 2D construction lines are drawn in order to represent the interior surface.
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I just received my copy of John's new book yesterday.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1119484006/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i0
I haven't had a chance yet to thoroughly review it from cover to cover but at a cursory glance it appears that it is a fairly complete text. I was actually quite surprised to the level of detail that John models his homes. I didn't expect to see all of the electrical outlets and switches however the major duct work for the HVAC does seem like an excellent idea so as to avoid clashes with other building elements.
I was pleasantly surprised to see that the Truss plugin was included in the text. Of course the wall plugin was released probably after the book went to press so it did not get any coverage but hopefully it might find its way into the 2nd edition.
I've got to say though, those Lumion renderings are something else. At first glance I thought I was looking at the actual completed residence.
I think I would have liked to see a more in depth treatment in Part IV (Construction Documents) with regards to Layout and more examples of actual construction documents but overall I think this book will be a good reference and earns a spot on my bookshelf.
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Subscription licensing would be a deal breaker for me personally, it's the main reason I've avoided plusspec. I do understand the developer's need for a steady revenue stream though. I agree with Juju here and is why I don't mind the SU business model. Buy the software, use it forever, pay a "subscription" for upgrades, pay extra $xx for upgrades without the "subscription". Also don't mind paying a higher initial price if I feel the software is worth it to me. I want to own my software, not rent it. I also think this is the fairest solution for both parties, my roi of my initial investment is that I own the software and can use it forever, I can decide what to do regarding upgrades, and hopefully the upgrade "subscription" produces enough of a revenue stream for the developers to keep developing.
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@alpro said:
Subscription licensing would be a deal breaker for me personally, it's the main reason I've avoided plusspec. I do understand the developer's need for a steady revenue stream though. I agree with Juju here and is why I don't mind the SU business model. Buy the software, use it forever, pay a "subscription" for upgrades, pay extra $xx for upgrades without the "subscription". Also don't mind paying a higher initial price if I feel the software is worth it to me. I want to own my software, not rent it. I also think this is the fairest solution for both parties, my roi of my initial investment is that I own the software and can use it forever, I can decide what to do regarding upgrades, and hopefully the upgrade "subscription" produces enough of a revenue stream for the developers to keep developing.
I've been letting this percolate for a while and collecting feedback from everyone. I am currently leaning on keeping things the way they are (non-subscription) but in order to make the project viable I may need to charge more up front at some point.
I am still thinking this through.
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Version 0.9.9v - 12.29.2018
- Added roof sheathing to the Medeek Estimator (common and monopitch truss assemblies).
In order for this cross plugin communication/analysis to work correctly you must also upgrade the Truss plugin to the latest version (2.2.7b - 12.29.2018). The latest truss plugin version has statistics enabled for common and monopitch truss roofs.
Note that the Medeek Estimator is largely experimental (but functional) at this point. I am essentially setting up the templates and overall organization. Once I am satisfied with the general layout and system I will begin to fully flesh it out with all of the various construction elements (eg. studs, plates, windows, doors, etc...)
I may also separate the Medeek Estimator module into its own stand along plugin since technically it can work with either the Wall or Truss plugin or both. I will also be augmenting the Foundation plugin with statistics so that its output can also be analyzed in the estimator.
If I do pull it out then it will not really be a stand along plugin as much as an add on that works specifically with the mdkBIM suite since it is not setup to analyze generic models like Quantifier or Estimator (John Brock).
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@medeek said:
I just received my copy of John's new book yesterday.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1119484006/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i0
I'd like to find an online store where I can get it in the Adobe Digital Editions (PDF with DRM as far as I know) format.
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@juju said:
@medeek said:
I just received my copy of John's new book yesterday.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1119484006/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i0
I'd like to find an online store where I can get it in the Adobe Digital Editions (PDF with DRM as far as I know) format.
Yeah, I don't see that option on Amazon. You could probably contact John directly and see where or if this purchase option will become available.
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Version 0.9.9w - 01.04.2019
- Added Drip Edge and Hip & Ridge to the Medeek Estimator (common and monopitch truss assemblies).
- Added Concrete, Rebar and Anchor Bolts to the Medeek Estimator (slab-on-grade foundation assemblies).
- Made some improvements to the Medeek Estimator framework and user interface.
This recent release is a further test of the cross plugin integration. Assemblies from the Truss and Foundation plugins are now able to be analyzed with the Medeek Estimator.
I still have a long ways to go in order to flesh out all of the various building elements and configurations but at least I have a clear path now on how to make it happen.
With regards to the CSV output, I am still a bit unsure how to best format it so that it is fully optimized for further estimating and analysis. Any additional feedback on how best to preset the data is greatly appreciated.
This release is compatible with the following releases:
Medeek Truss: Version 2.2.7d
Medeek Foundation: Version 1.1.9 -
Quickly browsing through my todo list this evening its a bit overwhelming to see that the list is still rather long even after 9 months of full time effort on the plugins. The other two plugins almost need complete overhauls to bring them further inline with the Wall plugin (parametrics, materials, global settings etc...)
A few new items that I've contemplated over the Christmas break are:
1.) Blocking module: Ability to create individual studs/blocking that can be incorporated into any wall panel.
2.) Stand Alone Columns/Posts: Similar to the beam module I need a column module which allows the user to generate columns with all of the potential options available: wrap, wainscoting, bases, caps etc... This is different from the existing column tools which deal specifically with in-wall columns.
3.) Fixtures module: I still think it would be very useful to have the ability to drop an entire (typical) bathroom into a model, with a couple clicks of the mouse.
4.) Electrical module: After looking through John's new book I think there may be some utility to having some tools for inserting standard outlets and switches into the wall panels.
5.) Publishing an API or at least a catalog of the attributes libraries for each plugin so that other 3rd party plugins can be developed that interact with or are able to pull data from the Medeek models. There is so much that can be done in this regard and since there is only one of me I can't possibly handle much more than I am already attempting to juggle.
6.) PDF generator: This one may be more work than I want to get myself into at the moment but I think it might be useful to have an automated approach to producing some construction drawings for the plugin (eg. wall panel framing drawing/schematic). This would probably cater more towards the component manufacturer/wall panel company rather than the typical residential designer or architect. -
Version 0.9.9x - 01.07.2019
- License expiration date now appears in the License tab of the Global Settings when plugin is registered.
- Added (regular) wall studs to the Medeek Estimator.
Note that this addition does not yet include cripple studs, kings studs, trimmer studs and corner studs (when they differ in dimension from the common studs).
The estimating module is a bit more complicated than I originally thought so I had to rewrite a good portion of it to make it more scalable. The HTML preview screen also needed some additional attention in that regard. I think I've finally got it setup now where I can much more easily flesh out the rest of the building elements for all three plugins.
The CSV is generated in parallel with the HTML preview however I can also add a lot more detail into this file if requested. There are no screen real estate limitations with spreadsheets, I can populate as many rows and columns as required.
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Version 0.9.9y - 01.09.2019
- Added cripple and corner studs to the Medeek Estimator.
- Added top and bottom plates to the Medeek Estimator.
- Added window framing: header, sill plate, king studs, trimmer studs and sill trimmer studs to the Medeek Estimator.
I shuffled things around a bit so the presentation is also more tidy both in the preview screen and in the CSV file.
Cripple studs are sorted per wall by length (shortest to longest), a shout out to Fredo6 and Eneroth for helping me tighten up the algorithm that does the sorting and enumeration.
https://forums.sketchup.com/t/sorting-a-list-of-values/84902
Windows for each wall appear below the wall's item listing, notice the different color header to help visually differentiate the sections. I will also use a unique color for doors, garage doors, columns and SSWs within the Wall table.
If there are sub-items that need similar treatment in roof and foundation assemblies I will utilize the same system, as it seems to work reasonably well.
I have not yet added doors and garage doors, they will be next. Windows are the guinea pigs. There is quite a bit of data to process so the ruby transmits the data to the HTML in blocks. Even so the speed is so fast there is hardly a lag when you hit the calculate button. I'm curious to try this with a full house model with 100+ walls.
I haven't gotten much feedback on the layout of my CSV file, I am hoping for more input in the near future so I can make it as effective and usable as possible.
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