GTX 1060 performance?
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hi all,
i recently bought a brand new laptop with a GTX1060 GPU (MSI GS63VR) and I would like to ask about your experience with this card's performance.
I opened up a 130MB model of a football stadium done for work a year ago, and I was met with very subpar performance, ie. roughly 1-2 FPS while orbiting. Next up I disabled Hardware Acceleration and the performance improved (!) to somewhere around 10 FPS. And at last, for the hell of it, I tried running sketchup on the integrated GPU (Intel HD Graphics 530) - the performance jumped to almost smooth 18-20 FPS.
Now, I am still using SketchUp 2015 and I guess I should try the newest one.
Does anyone have different experience running GTX 1060 with sketchup? desktop versions? different sketchup versions? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
the model looks like this (lots of geometry, few textures)
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Okay, I found out what's happening - the GPU stays at all the lowest frequencies (core 140MHz, memory 200MHz).
Does anyone any suggestion how to bump it up?
Edit: Same thing happens also with the very last release of SU 2017. The frequency just stays the same.
Edit 2: I found out how to force the driver to use the maximum frequency for the chip (1.4GHz). However, this did not help - turns out, Sketchup sends no instructions to the graphics card - the GPU Load stays at 0%. However, while running it on thr Intel graphics, it receives 50 - 100% GPU load while orbiting. I could really use some hints guys
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Did you look at the nVidia panel and set it up for SketchUp?
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@Dave R, yes, that's where I set the frequency - to no avail.
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Did you already try reinstalling the driver? (clean install)
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sounds like a strange driver issue. I have the same gfx chip in a desktop and it seems to work fine. No laggies with my models although they hardly ever exceed 50Mb.
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@numerobis said:
Did you already try reinstalling the driver? (clean install)
yes, numerobis, I tried reinstalling both SketchUps (2015 and 2017) and performed a clean install of the latest nvidia drivers (376.09)
@kaas, what CPU do you have? do you switch dynamically between the integrated & dedicated GPUs?
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How about the energy settings in the nvidia control panel? Does it change anything if you set it to max performance?
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@numerobis, yes, i already checked that when I was responding to Dave R; no effect whatsoever.
It's not a problem with the scene either; I opened it (in both SU 2015 and 2017) on my desktop with a GTX660Ti and I got almost perfectly smooth orbiting (with 2017 being even faster).
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@kaas said:
@eidam655 said:
@kaas, what CPU do you have? do you switch dynamically between the integrated & dedicated GPUs?
I have a i5-3570 and the embedded gpu of that chip is disabled in the bios. I'm always running on the gtx1060.
I don't have that option in my laptops's BIOS. Could you please try enabling the integrated graphics card and see what happens?
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@eidam655 said:
Could you please try enabling the integrated graphics card and see what happens?
I'm sorry but the card is in a desktop that I use for work and I'm already on a very tight schedule. Even if there's only a very slight chance that something could go wrong - I really can't risk loosing a few hours if the gfx settings in Windows do get messed up... Sorry.
Isn't there an MSI forum where you can post and see if more people are having problems with that laptop?
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don't use the native nVidia driver but always do prefer an available (regularly customized) graphics driver of the notebook maker instead.
do a clean install:
- uninstall recent GeForce driver
- restart Windows
- install the previously downloaded driver (see above)
always connect to AC for evaluating performance issues.
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Yes, i also think, that going back to the last officially supported nvidia driver (369.02) is worth a try. And then maybe reinstalling the chipset and intel VGA driver - you could try the original and the latest versions.
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@sketch3d.de said:
don't use the native nVidia driver but always do prefer an available (regularly customized) graphics driver of the notebook maker instead.
do a clean install:
- uninstall recent GeForce driver
- restart Windows
- install the previously downloaded driver (see above)
Thank you for your response. I completely forgot that sometimes a 'downgrade' may be helpful and manufacturer-customized drivers may make sense.
The performance is now completely satisfactory (ie. smooth) while using the dedicated GPU. Although in the nVidia control panel I had to set 'Use nVidia processor' manually, since it would default to the integrated graphics card.
My problems are now solved; thank you all again
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try this settings... Window - Sketchup Preferences- OpenGL - then uncheck " use fast feedback"
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@eidam655 said:
I completely forgot that sometimes a 'downgrade' may be helpful and manufacturer-customized drivers may make sense.
they may not make sense but always do make sense, not because of the older driver version but because of the customizations made by the notebook maker concerning thermal design and power consumption etc. of the respective hardware.
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@eidam655 said:
@sketch3d.de said:
don't use the native nVidia driver but always do prefer an available (regularly customized) [url=http:https://us.msi.com/Laptop/support/GS63VR-6RF-Stealth-Pro-Landing.html]graphics driver of the notebook maker[/url] instead.
do a clean install:
- uninstall recent GeForce driver
- restart Windows
- install the previously downloaded driver (see above)
Thank you for your response. I completely forgot that sometimes a 'downgrade' may be helpful and manufacturer-customized drivers may make sense.
The performance is now completely satisfactory (ie. smooth) while using the dedicated GPU. Although in the nVidia control panel I had to set 'Use nVidia processor' manually, since it would default to the integrated graphics card.
My problems are now solved; thank you all again
I am having the same problem with my nvidia gtx1060, it has the latest drivers in 6/6/2017... I am not that clever instaling drivers, I would like to ask you what drivers did yyou install to solve the problem and where I could find them. Thank you!
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I use a MSi laptop GS73VR 6RF with nvidia gtx1060 and sketchup pro 2017
I unninstaled the nvidia drivers, restart and installed the 369.02 version from msi site. I also forced sketchup to run with nvidia and tryed all the energy sets on the nvidia panel but nothing changes on the performance, I get a 6% average of GPU load.
My models are around 50 and 120Mb and all get the same reduced fps.Any help will be greatly apreciated!!
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@ryouga182 said:
I am having the same problem with my nvidia gtx1060, it has the latest drivers in 6/6/2017... I am not that clever instaling drivers, I would like to ask you what drivers did yyou install to solve the problem and where I could find them. Thank you!
Edit
I use a MSi laptop GS73VR 6RF with nvidia gtx1060 and sketchup pro 2017
I unninstaled the nvidia drivers, restart and installed the 369.02 version from msi site. I also forced sketchup to run with nvidia and tryed all the energy sets on the nvidia panel but nothing changes on the performance, I get a 6% average of GPU load.
My models are around 50 and 120Mb and all get the same reduced fps.Any help will be greatly apreciated!!
hi ryouga182,
what i did was i simply downloaded the latest nvidia driver from the MSI's support page - this is the one for my machine, you may need to search for your exact model. Then a simple uninstallation of the current drivers & a new installation of these downloaded ones made the trick.
You can try using the Display Driver Uninstaller tool (DDU - http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html) to try to get a clean uninstall of the drivers.
In your Device Manager you can also try and check which driver version is actually being used - Windows 10 is sometimes very crafty and needs to be checked
other than that i have no idea.
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full-quoting is regularly not required for answering but bloats the forum with no benefit.
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