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    • S Offline
      slbaumgartner
      last edited by

      I'm a little confused by your question. A polygon in SketchUp can have any planar shape, it does not need to be triangular. Your six-edge figure will be a single polygon unless it is not planar, and if it is not planar drawing the interior line won't make it so.

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        pilou
        last edited by

        Normally the best is to build volume "waterproof" if you want only skin!
        Will be useful if you want later make 3D Print!

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          Buggy B
          last edited by

          Thanks for the replies,

          I want to use my model in a game and I guess the model will work with triangular polygons. This is my concern.

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            slbaumgartner
            last edited by

            Ah yes, many other modeling systems are based on triangular faces. I hadn't realized you need to export the SketchUp model to one of them. However, to prevent your bottom face from being over-triangulated you will need to isolate it from the rest using Groups or Components. Otherwise where the walls touch the floor will break up the floor even if you draw the line across the gap, and the export will therefore cover it with a bunch of smaller triangles.

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              Buggy B
              last edited by

              SO I need to seperate every face which sticks to other faces by for example groups and do such lines/faces like shown in the OP to simplify faces?

              Well sounds like alot of extra work. Do you happen to know if there is a plugin for that? Atleast for the seperating task?

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                pilou
                last edited by

                If problem is triangulation surface you can use Triangulate faces by Tig

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
                  last edited by

                  It's not that hard to organize your drawing with groups. For a rectangular floor you just draw a rectangle (Or rectangular prism for depth) and group (with a hot key). Go along and build your walls above. Group them so they don't interact with other touching geometry (Like the roof). Grouping (or using components) makes modeling easier.

                  Whether the program you are going to recognizes the groups is another question--or does it just add all the intersections anyway. if it does not keep the groups independent, then only draw visible faces.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    Buggy B
                    last edited by

                    I currently work on my models with the help of your feedback.

                    Now I noticed something like this:

                    https://i.imgur.com/KDYwwmB.png

                    If I connect the planes on the left and right, some kind of clipping happens and looks quite ugly. Is this likely to happen in other engines, too? I dont know which engine I will use so I cannot test it... πŸ˜•

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                      slbaumgartner
                      last edited by

                      Sorry, I can't understand from your post quite what is the problem. Is the image intended to show the "some kind of clipping"? If so, I don't see it. If not, maybe you could post an image that does show it? The arrow on your image points to an edge. Without seeing the model, I can't tell you why this edge is visible or what will happen if you erase it - quite possibly there is a small misalignment.

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                        Buggy B
                        last edited by

                        Yea I am talking about this hidden plane. To fight "overtriangulation" in the engine I thought connecting the light planes on the left + right to a single plane.

                        I will stop doing stuff like this and continue on my model. Once I finish it I will upload it here and you might give me tips on problems you notice, okay?

                        But this will not happen soon as the model is far from being finished.

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
                          last edited by

                          Good. Glad you are making progress.

                          There is probably an internal wall under that top surface and perpendicular to it. Why not continue with your project (WIP) and post the model, and ask how to do things? In this case what do you want to do? Get rid of that light-colored line? I think there's an internal face you need to delete.

                          If you don't know what renderer you will use, it's hard to say what the result will be, but most likely it will look quite different than in SketchUp. Fretting about the appearance in SU might be a waste of time, before you see the results in the renderer. Divisions in coplanar faces are generally not visible in a renderer, if the material is the same.

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Now I noticed something like this:

                            If the surfaces are really "coplanar" & "pasted" & same color / Material and the "edges" not enabled (if it can) in the render engine
                            all will be rendered as a same surface! πŸ˜‰
                            (Remark the differences between images 2 - 3 with or without edges! 3 seems more light! πŸ˜‰ )
                            3views.jpg

                            It's the case in the fabulous free real time Visualizer! 😎

                            fabulous_visualizer.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
                              last edited by

                              Erase the edge and that hidden plane should go away.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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