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    measuredmove
    last edited by 24 Jul 2016, 16:59

    I have created a number of small decorative items (pillows, plates, decorative objects etc.) in SU by using a jpg of the item. I would like to post them on SU Warehouse but they all seem excessively large for what they are. If anyone is able to reduce the size of the attached .skp and to let me know how โ€“ it would be very greatly appreciated.

    These are steps and the resulting output file sizes:
    jpg to PhotoAnimate-205 KB
    PhotoAnimate to .3ds = 187 KB
    .3ds to Simlab to SU = 3,367 KB
    SU using Cleanup = 3384 KB

    It seems the increased size of the output is in saving the .3DS file as .skp. There are a number of formats in Simlab to export the 3DS file to, .skp being the most obvious. I have tried a number of them such as .dae,.fbx,.obj (with material),.obj(based on structure) but there was not a significant size reduction and in most cases the object was very triangulated or had lost the material mapping altogether.

    Iโ€™m using SU8.0.4811 and was not able to load TT_Lib_V2 so using Cleanup may not be working at all.
    To use one or two pillows in a scene may not be too critical but if the files can be reduced it would certainly be way better.
    (PS .3ds file type not allowed to attach to this post)
    Thanks for any help.


    Pillow-Valencia[Multi].skp


    Pillow-Valencia[Multi]_01.png

    My 3D Catalogue
    https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
    SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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      Rich O Brien Moderator
      last edited by 24 Jul 2016, 18:17

      The cushion can be mirrored along Y as the mesh is symmetrical. That will reduce the file size to <2mb

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        measuredmove
        last edited by 24 Jul 2016, 18:49

        Thanks for the reply, Rich
        The mirroring part happens in the Animate program, prior to importing into Simlab as a 3DS file so when it is exported as a skp it is fully formed as a 3D object. So I'm not quite sure where you suggest the mirroring takes place. Leave it as a one-sided 3d form to be mirrored once it is opened in SU?
        I tried that and it did reduce it by about a third which is pretty good-thanks! Probably the best I can hope for when using a 3ds import.
        Thanks again.

        My 3D Catalogue
        https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
        SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by 24 Jul 2016, 19:05

          Pillow-Valencia%5BMulti%5D.skp

          Mirror the geometry to the back.

          To reduce the poly count export it to .dae and import to Blender and add a Decimate modifier with a .15 ratio then apply it.

          Pillow-Valencia-lo.skp

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            measuredmove
            last edited by 24 Jul 2016, 19:16

            I don't have Blender yet but will download and give it a try.
            I have about 1200 of these created so I know what I'll be doing in my spare time for the forseeable....no batch process.

            My 3D Catalogue
            https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
            SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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              juju
              last edited by 25 Jul 2016, 07:38

              A job for Mootools 3Dbrowser with Polygon Cruncher?

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                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by 25 Jul 2016, 09:32

                Yeah, Poly Cruncher can get it down to 100 Faces and 788kb in size.

                Image 10.png

                At this point the alpha in the png is contributing to 70% of the file weight. If you save the texture as jpeg you can save a further 500kb...

                Pillow-Valencia-100-jpeg.skp

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                  juju
                  last edited by 25 Jul 2016, 11:35

                  impressive, roughly 3.3MB to 203kB, that's some optimization!

                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                    measuredmove
                    last edited by 25 Jul 2016, 11:52

                    Excellent! I think that may be what I'm looking for
                    Cheers. eveeryone

                    My 3D Catalogue
                    https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
                    SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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                      measuredmove
                      last edited by 31 Jul 2016, 17:19

                      Just to update this info for anyone else trying to reduce the file size of a 3ds import into Sketchup.
                      Downloaded the trial version of Mootools 3ds Browser with Polygon Cruncher.
                      Batch processed a few .skp files but wasnโ€™t able to open as they save in V16 and Iโ€™m still using V8.
                      (To save to other versions of SU may be an option in a later version of Polygon Cruncher but not possible right now)
                      Redid a batch process at 75% optimisation using the original 3ds files.
                      Opened in Simlab Composer, mapped the corresponding material file (using jpg not png) and was able to save/open in SU8.
                      The file size went from 3,230KB down to 707KB
                      Iโ€™m really happy with these results.


                      Pillow-Dupion[Blue-png].skp


                      Pillow-Dupion[Blue-Moo75].skp

                      My 3D Catalogue
                      https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
                      SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                        last edited by 31 Jul 2016, 17:22

                        As far as I am aware it saves as SketchUp v6. Not v2016.

                        At least my licensed version does.

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                          measuredmove
                          last edited by 31 Jul 2016, 17:55

                          I did contact Mootools Techsupport and they responded:
                          "No there is no way to export using V8 version. This is an idea to add to an upcoming version"
                          But I can work with my convoluted path for now to get these results. It's been a hit and miss search for quite a while so this is progress-for sure!


                          V16.png

                          My 3D Catalogue
                          https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection/103ed44c-a0c4-4049-9a84-89cd017bcc07/Measured-Move
                          SU8/Brighter3D/Gimp/SimLab Composer

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