Design vs Art?
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@olishea said:
Art needs no function
I'd modify that to 'art needs no specific function'.
Artworks do have a function, it's just that those functions are more existential and abstract in nature.
One problem is that people confuse two different usages of 'art'. For example, when it comes to '3D artists' we aren't talking about artists who work in 3D, but people who practice the art of 3D.
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You can make coffee with an Design object
You can see people drinking a coffee with Art!
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The first thing I'd say is that true creation is always Art.
The second thing I'd say is that the medium for creation is everywhere in every human action.
The third thing I'd say is that Design is a medium for creation.
So true Design is Art.
To pick on the quote:
Design can solve a problem and raise a question.
Design is conclusive and there is no conclusion that isn't open to debate.
Design is being an actor and following a script that can be written by yourself.
Design is the mind looking for solutions wich can come from questions of the soul.
Design needs a collective acceptance wich you can't attain without an inner approval.
Design is an act of empathy and freedom.You can replace Design with any other human action, but to call it Art you can't replace one statement: "true creation".
There are many people called artists simply because they work with mediums that are typical of traditional art forms. Are they "trully creating" or just skilled with those mediums?
Are they artists or artisans?
Is a sculptor an artist?
A designer can be a much bigger artist than a sculptor.
Anyone can be a much bigger artist than a sculptor!
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Art = Talent
Design = Skill -
Architecture and therefor design, is in a blurred edge collision with art and therefor, art has a function beyond the abstract/existential. Where these forms collide is open to interpretation but a lot of the more modern designs fit in to what I would call 'Abstract Architecture' where form most certainly has a function, to stop the whole thing falling down while being visually pleasing. Just my ten pence worth.
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Art Inspires, Design Motivates, art is interpreted and design is accepted.
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Music, Dance, Cinema, Literature, Painting, Sculpture, Architecture, Design, Philosophy, Politics, Economy, Science, Sports, Education, Gastronomy...
(these are just examples of human creative activity where Art may express itself...)
People usually say Art has no function but what they fail to see is that Art has a function and it has to function.
The function of a painting is to be hanged in the wall to be seen... it cannot collapse and you have to have lighting conditions and people have to be at the right distance and... it's all so trivial as you having to take a sh** at a bathroom.
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Art is to be hanged, and so some designers.
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@rich o brien said:
Art = Talent
Design = SkillMan, I am in deep trouble
I am neither talented or skilled. 
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JQL - You are easily fooled
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Hi guys,
Recently I stumbled upon this TED talk about beauty. (https://www.ted.com/talks/denis_dutton_a_darwinian_theory_of_beauty)
I found it quite eye-opening and helped me understand and communicate with my clients. Especially to those I found difficult to relate to.
Interesting article on the design blog, thanks for sharing it.
I am finding a lot of inspiration in graphic design lately. Its just beautiful, how Sketchucation community works.regards,
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@ntxdave said:
JQL - You are easily fooled
You are the one being fooled by your own beliefs. You believe you're not skilled or talented so you have given up trying to prove your worth to yourself.
However I see you around trying to build up your skills, dedicating a lot to your car washing machines, a lot more than you need to, with a lot more software that I would find reasonably required to do the job.
You're preparing yourself for some grand objective...
Let it free!
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Well, I do keep trying some things. There are a couple things for my ultimate solution (maybe unrealistic) that I am trying to figure out. I need some foam and water mists to go with some pieces of equipment and would ultimately like for them to be animated as well.
I think maybe I post too many things as well. I have been using Sketchp for 2+ years now but primarily for the car washes. I would like to learn other hints as well. I see a lot of talented people doing things in this forum that I would love to be ale to do. Maybe some day.
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@solo said:
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You insensitive person!
You work with renders, at least you got to love that subtle caustics effect...
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What? That's where I left them!
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It's just the sleep of the Invisible Man!
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