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    • bazB Offline
      baz
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      I call myself an 'Artist/Craftsman' sometimes. Other times a 'Designer/Maker'. Some times just a 'Wood craftsman'.
      Tho' at the moment I'm a 'Deck maker' with a couple of jobs on the go.
      (BTW: Never trust a man with two decks. Sorry, New Zealand joke).

      But this article by Alex Trochut got my attention, it's coming from a Graphic design perspective but I wonder if you artists/architects/creators, think it is relevant.

      PS: My byeline pretty much covers my view.

      **Design vs Art

      Design is solving a problem. Art is raising a question.
      Design is conclusive. Art is an open debate.
      Design is being an actor and following a script. Art is writing and interpreting your own story.
      Design is the mind looking for solutions. Art is the voice of the soul.
      Design needs a collective acceptance. Art only needs an inner approval.
      Design is an act of empathy. Art is an act of freedom.**
      

      Alex Trochut

      This article was originally published in Computer Arts magazine issue 252.

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      The difference between art and design

      How do art and design differ? Like many creatives, I often find myself debating the perpetual question of whether design can be art. I'm going to use this opportunity to say that I don't think that design is art.

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      • olisheaO Offline
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        Art needs no function

        oli

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        • HieruH Offline
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          @olishea said:

          Art needs no function

          I'd modify that to 'art needs no specific function'.

          Artworks do have a function, it's just that those functions are more existential and abstract in nature.

          One problem is that people confuse two different usages of 'art'. For example, when it comes to '3D artists' we aren't talking about artists who work in 3D, but people who practice the art of 3D.

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          • pilouP Offline
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            You can make coffee with an Design object

            https://reps01.s3.amazonaws.com/product_detail_insight_310/catalogue/de5f59c5cc77c3fa746ececf76ed9c7d9880d358.jpeg

            You can see people drinking a coffee with Art! πŸ˜‰

            http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oi-ck3newe8/UyHhQLIQcVI/AAAAAAAAAfc/NUPKQ33-OUk/s1600/1nighthawks+.png

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • JQLJ Offline
              JQL
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              The first thing I'd say is that true creation is always Art.

              The second thing I'd say is that the medium for creation is everywhere in every human action.

              The third thing I'd say is that Design is a medium for creation.

              So true Design is Art.

              To pick on the quote:

              Design can solve a problem and raise a question.
              Design is conclusive and there is no conclusion that isn't open to debate.
              Design is being an actor and following a script that can be written by yourself.
              Design is the mind looking for solutions wich can come from questions of the soul.
              Design needs a collective acceptance wich you can't attain without an inner approval.
              Design is an act of empathy and freedom.

              You can replace Design with any other human action, but to call it Art you can't replace one statement: "true creation".

              There are many people called artists simply because they work with mediums that are typical of traditional art forms. Are they "trully creating" or just skilled with those mediums?

              Are they artists or artisans?

              Is a sculptor an artist?

              A designer can be a much bigger artist than a sculptor.

              Anyone can be a much bigger artist than a sculptor!

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              • Rich O BrienR Offline
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                Art = Talent
                Design = Skill

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                • Mike AmosM Offline
                  Mike Amos
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                  Architecture and therefor design, is in a blurred edge collision with art and therefor, art has a function beyond the abstract/existential. Where these forms collide is open to interpretation but a lot of the more modern designs fit in to what I would call 'Abstract Architecture' where form most certainly has a function, to stop the whole thing falling down while being visually pleasing. Just my ten pence worth.

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
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                    Art Inspires, Design Motivates, art is interpreted and design is accepted.

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    • JQLJ Offline
                      JQL
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                      Music, Dance, Cinema, Literature, Painting, Sculpture, Architecture, Design, Philosophy, Politics, Economy, Science, Sports, Education, Gastronomy...

                      (these are just examples of human creative activity where Art may express itself...)

                      People usually say Art has no function but what they fail to see is that Art has a function and it has to function.

                      The function of a painting is to be hanged in the wall to be seen... it cannot collapse and you have to have lighting conditions and people have to be at the right distance and... it's all so trivial as you having to take a sh** at a bathroom.

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                      • pbacotP Offline
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                        Art is to be hanged, and so some designers.

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                        • JQLJ Offline
                          JQL
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                          @pbacot said:

                          Art is to be hanged, and so some designers.

                          True!

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                          • ntxdaveN Offline
                            ntxdave
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                            @rich o brien said:

                            Art = Talent
                            Design = Skill

                            Man, I am in deep trouble ❗ I am neither talented or skilled. 😒

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                            • JQLJ Offline
                              JQL
                              last edited by

                              @ntxdave said:

                              @rich o brien said:

                              Art = Talent
                              Design = Skill

                              Man, I am in deep trouble ❗ I am neither talented or skilled. 😒

                              You have them both, let them loose and them come back!

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                              • ntxdaveN Offline
                                ntxdave
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                                JQL - You are easily fooled ❗ 😎

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                                • D Offline
                                  DOD3R
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi guys,
                                  Recently I stumbled upon this TED talk about beauty. (https://www.ted.com/talks/denis_dutton_a_darwinian_theory_of_beauty)
                                  I found it quite eye-opening and helped me understand and communicate with my clients. Especially to those I found difficult to relate to.
                                  Interesting article on the design blog, thanks for sharing it.
                                  I am finding a lot of inspiration in graphic design lately. Its just beautiful, how Sketchucation community works.

                                  regards,
                                  T.

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                                  • JQLJ Offline
                                    JQL
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                                    @ntxdave said:

                                    JQL - You are easily fooled ❗ 😎

                                    You are the one being fooled by your own beliefs. You believe you're not skilled or talented so you have given up trying to prove your worth to yourself.

                                    However I see you around trying to build up your skills, dedicating a lot to your car washing machines, a lot more than you need to, with a lot more software that I would find reasonably required to do the job.

                                    You're preparing yourself for some grand objective...

                                    Let it free!

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                                    • ntxdaveN Offline
                                      ntxdave
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                                      Well, I do keep trying some things. There are a couple things for my ultimate solution (maybe unrealistic) that I am trying to figure out. I need some foam and water mists to go with some pieces of equipment and would ultimately like for them to be animated as well.

                                      I think maybe I post too many things as well. I have been using Sketchp for 2+ years now but primarily for the car washes. I would like to learn other hints as well. I see a lot of talented people doing things in this forum that I would love to be ale to do. Maybe some day. πŸ’š

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                                      • soloS Offline
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                                        sub-buzz-16781-1464193979-5.png

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

                                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        • JQLJ Offline
                                          JQL
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                                          @solo said:

                                          [attachment=0:3ihcq65s]<!-- ia0 -->sub-buzz-16781-1464193979-5.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3ihcq65s]

                                          You insensitive person!

                                          You work with renders, at least you got to love that subtle caustics effect... 😎

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                                          • pbacotP Offline
                                            pbacot
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                                            @jql said:

                                            @solo said:

                                            [attachment=0:3mb4ppyn]<!-- ia0 -->sub-buzz-16781-1464193979-5.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3mb4ppyn]

                                            You insensitive person!

                                            You work with renders, at least you got to love that subtle caustics effect... 😎

                                            What? No interpretive plaque?

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