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    • S ShepherdS Offline
      S Shepherd
      last edited by

      Konnichiwa,

      I don't have fancy piece of furniture, just an odd little dovetail joint. Probably more trouble to layout on wood than it's worth.

      Shep


      twisted 1.PNG


      twisted 2.PNG

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      • KrisidiousK Offline
        Krisidious
        last edited by

        What I wonder is how it could actually be used in real life... Doesn't seem possible.

        By: Kristoff Rand
        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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        • D Offline
          davidheim1
          last edited by

          Very interesting. Might make a good corner joint for a box.
          Best,
          dh

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          • P Offline
            pcmoor
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            @krisidious said:

            What I wonder is how it could actually be used in real life... Doesn't seem possible.

            True....Its not possible to join them

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              @pcmoor said:

              @krisidious said:

              What I wonder is how it could actually be used in real life... Doesn't seem possible.

              True....Its not possible to join them

              maybe if it's printed that way? πŸ˜‰

              dotdotdot

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              • S ShepherdS Offline
                S Shepherd
                last edited by

                Oh ye of little faith. Just google it

                Shep

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Cool.

                  @pcmoor said:

                  @krisidious said:

                  What I wonder is how it could actually be used in real life... Doesn't seem possible.

                  True....Its not possible to join them

                  There are similar looking joints that can be assembled.

                  Scott beat me to it.

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                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                    Krisidious
                    last edited by

                    I did and most of what I saw looked faked... Others were built in a way that they could be angled together first. I'd love to see video of it being done.

                    By: Kristoff Rand
                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      Kris, twisted dovetails like Scott's can and are made in real wood. Whether or not they look faked, they can be cut to work.

                      From Fine Woodworking Magazine #61
                      Twisted.png

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by

                        i guess if the pins&tails line up at some point (in the middle somewhere) then it can slide together? if the angles are right?

                        dotdotdot

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                        • S ShepherdS Offline
                          S Shepherd
                          last edited by

                          See if this helps. The first image I posted is the starting position.


                          Twisted.gif

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @s shepherd said:

                            The first image I posted is the starting position.

                            oops, i missed that bit.. was thinking the coincident point would have to be in the middle somewhere. the animation clears it up though.
                            πŸ‘

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              Nice animation Shep...

                              This is one of the ones that looked faked.

                              http://www.richardjonesfurniture.com/Tables-Chairs/boire-coffee-table/boire-table-3-600.jpg

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • KrisidiousK Offline
                                Krisidious
                                last edited by

                                So the twist has to be identical on the inside front as it is on the backside top for it to work?

                                By: Kristoff Rand
                                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  @krisidious said:

                                  Nice animation Shep...

                                  This is one of the ones that looked faked.

                                  http://www.richardjonesfurniture.com/Tables-Chairs/boire-coffee-table/boire-table-3-600.jpg

                                  What makes it look fake?

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
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                                    @dave r said:

                                    What makes it look fake?

                                    because it looks like there's not a way to assemble/dissemble it.. that's what the joint is for anyway, right?
                                    like-- "hey bud, why don't you try to figure that one out hehheh"..
                                    or is it inherently stronger than a traditional dovetail?

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                                    • S ShepherdS Offline
                                      S Shepherd
                                      last edited by

                                      @krisidious said:

                                      Nice animation Shep...

                                      This is one of the ones that looked faked.

                                      http://www.richardjonesfurniture.com/Tables-Chairs/boire-coffee-table/boire-table-3-600.jpg

                                      One thing that's different about this is the miter on the end pair. I think it's done like this.


                                      twisted miter.PNG

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                                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                                        Krisidious
                                        last edited by

                                        @dave r said:

                                        What makes it look fake?

                                        The seam along the dovetails...

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        • Dave RD Offline
                                          Dave R
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                                          @krisidious said:

                                          @dave r said:

                                          What makes it look fake?

                                          The seam along the dovetails...

                                          That's not a seam. It's a marking gauge line for the baseline. You'll sometimes see it on hand cut non-twisted dovetails too. It's part of the marking out for the joint. The baseline is often cut deep because it forms a guide for the chisel when cleaning out the waste.

                                          http://www.philadelphiafurnitureworkshop.com/category/show/images/Dovetails_000.JPG

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                                          • S Offline
                                            slbaumgartner
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                                            The mental hurdle in this joint as nicely illustrated in Scott's video is that the joint slides together along a 45 degree sloped line, not straight in as we are accustomed to. That fools the mind and eye into thinking it can't go together at all!

                                            Steve

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