[Banned]

Anton_S

Yeah and I forgot: They replaced the young beaty girl with some old ugly man....
my God, I ask - why so stupid changes?

Same feeling here. I have her template copied for my template page in 2015 though.

driven

if you mistakenly missed the [than SU] in your title, I will agree...

john

Kaja9

JQL:
Layout? tell me who uses this? (But I understand that architects and only building makers do)
64 Bit - OK, I can accept this is valuable, but with Ruby console those are "hidden" changes.
warehouse is nothing to need for my life..

David:
~~I use paid version (but to bo honest - didn't pay )~~

[mod=:3q61idzk]Reported[/mod:3q61idzk]

Pbacot:
OK, I understand that SK was designed for building making at first, BUT - and this is a BIG BUT, I DON't want to continue in developing this software ONLY in this very specific and profiled users.
BECAUSE, I love SKetchup and this soft has some unique and great tools and interface, that it would be very pitty to focus only for making houses.

I use SKetchup for Game assets, and a lot of my friends as well, because in many ways it is better for use than high profi maya, 3ds or cinema. And we all would like to see some missing features and tools to be able make my models only in SKEtchup without cooperation with other programs, like before.
And this is why I also based this topic, I can see that Trimble heads this software ONLY to the architect tool, and I ask why, when it is here a BIG potential to make it a complex tool. - ANd I add - Still remaining easy and "light"...

jeff hammond

@kaja9 said:

I use paid version (but to bo honest - didn't pay )

lol.. prepare yourself to catch

i'd try to explain the oddness of such a statement but really, this is something a person need to explain to themselves. (from my pov at least.. i pretty much only preach morals to my child )

@kaja9 said:

when it is here a BIG potential to make it a complex tool. - ANd I add - Still remaining easy and "light"...

i've had (and have) similar sentiments.. the flipside is that if sketchup were what i want it to be, millions of people would no longer like sketchup.. the tools you seemingly want are out there.. just not sketchup.. basically, if you want a complex tool, use a complex tool.. maybe blender will work better for you.

kaas

@OP, I don't agree. JQL already made a nice list of reasons why I also don't agree. Apparently you don't use plugins that benefit from 64 bits, Ruby 2.0 etc. I do agree the materials & mapping should benefit from some Trimble-love.

pbacot

Certainly lots to do to improve without getting overly complex (and use plugins for that). But what this has to do with Google or Trimble, IDK. Same team and leaders basically control SketchUp development and I assume they don't do many things, because they CAN'T (or can't yet), and not because some suit in Trimble is telling them "Don't improve it."

Krisidious

@kaja9 said:

I use paid version (but to bo honest - didn't pay )

So you use a pirate version?

pbacot

@kaja9 said:

JQL:

Pbacot:
OK, I understand that SK was designed for building making at first, BUT - and this is a BIG BUT, I DON't want to continue in developing this software ONLY in this very specific and profiled users.
BECAUSE, I love SKetchup

I said that to indicate that my perspective is colored by my background and needs (like anyone) and I appreciate so much more is being done with SU

Rich O Brien

Re: Reported topic

A warning has been issued and we await reply

roland joseph

...there ya go.

Somebody noticed "it is pretty weird in here"..

Kaja9

well, this is probably my last comment here, regarding my previous post where I did a mistake -: there should be "I didnť play" a 'l' is missing, of course

so - Never say Blender again! - I tried it, and my opinion it is exactly opposite to the sketchup absolutely misserable user interface.

Yes my requested features can be done through Plugins. And yes, plugins make SK 150% better. So why did I link this topic with Trimble? Because I have just feeling (my private opinion) that Trimble uses SK just to gain many new paid users, and SK is for them just a tool of earning money.

What is difficult to agree with fact that there is practically no difference between 2013-15? Meanwhile there are to many words about new versions and empty words - its just advertising.

Those minor improvements cannot overlay the 4 year of idleness.
Wanted say that with Google the things would go in different way, and more usable for us.
Are here a normal people, or am I talking just to Trimble and SKetchucation employees, who must agree with official way.. ?

cotty

@kaja9 said:

Are here a normal people, or am I talking just to Trimble and SKetchucation employees, who must agree with official way.. ?

No normal people here, only over 300.000 SketchUcation employees...

driven

@kaja9 said:

Wanted say that with Google the things would go in different way, and more usable for us.
Are here a normal people, or am I talking just to Trimble and SKetchucation employees, who must agree with official way.. ?

If you have a look at Google's handling of any software that they decide is 'at end of life', you will find that they normally bury it...

Google had decided SU [SketchUp] was of no further use to them, i.e. 'at it's end of life' , so, yes, it should have gone a different way, it should have been killed off and the developers sacked...

Fortunately for us, part of the SU user base, they agreed to sell it to Trimble instead of burying it...

Like the majority here, I don't work for Trimble or SCF , but I do have issues with people who admit to be using illegal software commenting negatively.

Trimble have allowed SU to develop way past anything Google ever desired...

and while there are lots still to be improved, this time it may actually happen...

john

solo

What confuses me is that someone that uses Sketchup as a hobby for making game assets and mods has a need for a pro version, is there something the pro version offers that you need which the free version does not? if not why the need for a pirated pro version?

Secondly why complain about something you stole?

ccaponigro

I would hardly refer to the layout improvements and full 64 bit as nothing.

Kaja9

holy cow there are only saint moralists...
Is only one reason why I tried full version, I needed export into 3ds properly, I thought that plugin exports were less professional, but I was mistaken. Embedded paid 3ds export makes the same issue (edges are not smoothed like in SK)

You absolutely didn't catch the clue if your answers aim only to my piracy, instead of the main point.

tell me what new will be in SKetchup 2016 version.... improved ruby console? Or maybe 128 bit support... oh yes, ... perfect reason why to waste money for another buying...

Rich O Brien

Ok, so this chap earned a ban. Nice start to the year.

hellnbak

All I can say is that I was very concerned when Trimble took over, but I am more than pleased with the direction it's taken so far. The 2015 version was not without it's problems and some of the changes were not to my liking, but overall (IMO) it's a much improved program and I am now able to do what I need to do much easier than before.
And hey, how can you really complain about something that's free? (although I have been known to do that from time to time )

sonder

Nice throw down Rich! That was too funny!

Dan Rathbun

@rich o brien said:

Ok, so this chap earned a ban. Nice start to the year.

How did "he" earn a ban ?

I have re-read through the ToS and EULA, and cannot find a clause or regulation he has violated.
Section 15 says that it is the entire agreement.

The user was a member for ~ 3 years, although not very active,.. spent most time in the Newbie forum.

Is this what we do here ? When someone says things we do not like, we beat them with virtual sticks and run them out of "forumtown" ? Or kill off the user's account ?

Je Suis Kaja9 !

Freedom of expression for ALL !