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@kaja9 said:
Do you see that in the same way?..
No.
In my opinion an excellent software was googlised for several years and may now have a chance of developing the way it should have without the blind attempt at global simplification that they failed to achieve.
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They change the person every release... it's just a tradition, a different member of the sketchup team gets made into the figure every time.
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Some major improvements on Sketchup since Trimble is around:
- Sketchup is faster, Layout is Much faster... actually workeable right now (of course it still must get 100x faster);
- Both Sketchup and Layout are now 64-bit (they will have to be 128-bit someday);
- Ruby has been updated and you can now have better plugins (much has still to change);
- Extension Warehouse has been made as a path towards plugin consistency;
- Sketchup + Layout combo are growing to become a full BIM product with improvements on Classifications, Auto Text and Leader Auto Text on Layout (still a long way to go until something 100% useable is achieved)
The way I see it, since Trimble came along, the foundations of something bigger than what sketchup used to be were laid...
Only the future will tell what will become of Sketchup, but I definetely agree with the direction it's heading.
I know sketchup will never be Max, nor Blender, nor Rhino, nor Revit, but it is a bit more than the simple 3D modeler it was before and a good part of it is due to Trimble.
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64bit...
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Interesting perspective from someone that apparently uses the free version and not the pay version...
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@unknownuser said:
Do you see that in the same way?..
yes, pretty much, and it is altogether pretty weird in here to.
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People's needs and experience vary(also variations in OS and hardware, file size and content).
For me v2015 finally showed some progress. It's faster, many things are fixed, and LayOut is better and faster. I am, after all, the target audience SU was originally designed for, making drawings for buildings and not extensive organic modeling needs or tiny, or huge things. I didn't think Google's development was all that great or have a need for the GoogleEarth building stuff. Rather see it in the hands of an AEC company (not that there was a sea-change in direction anyway).
You make a number of points on the 3DWH which I didn't like much before and rarely use now, so hard to comment on that.
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@kaja9 said:
Yeah and I forgot: They replaced the young beaty girl with some old ugly man....
my God, I ask - why so stupid changes?
Same feeling here. I have her template copied for my template page in 2015 though. -
if you mistakenly missed the [than SU] in your title, I will agree...
john
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JQL:
Layout? tell me who uses this? (But I understand that architects and only building makers do)
64 Bit - OK, I can accept this is valuable, but with Ruby console those are "hidden" changes.
warehouse is nothing to need for my life..David:
I use paid version (but to bo honest - didn't pay )[mod=:3q61idzk]Reported[/mod:3q61idzk]
Pbacot:
OK, I understand that SK was designed for building making at first, BUT - and this is a BIG BUT, I DON't want to continue in developing this software ONLY in this very specific and profiled users.
BECAUSE, I love SKetchup and this soft has some unique and great tools and interface, that it would be very pitty to focus only for making houses.I use SKetchup for Game assets, and a lot of my friends as well, because in many ways it is better for use than high profi maya, 3ds or cinema. And we all would like to see some missing features and tools to be able make my models only in SKEtchup without cooperation with other programs, like before.
And this is why I also based this topic, I can see that Trimble heads this software ONLY to the architect tool, and I ask why, when it is here a BIG potential to make it a complex tool. - ANd I add - Still remaining easy and "light"... -
@kaja9 said:
I use paid version (but to bo honest - didn't pay
)lol.. prepare yourself to catch
i'd try to explain the oddness of such a statement but really, this is something a person need to explain to themselves. (from my pov at least.. i pretty much only preach morals to my child
)@kaja9 said:
when it is here a BIG potential to make it a complex tool. - ANd I add - Still remaining easy and "light"...
i've had (and have) similar sentiments.. the flipside is that if sketchup were what i want it to be, millions of people would no longer like sketchup.. the tools you seemingly want are out there.. just not sketchup.. basically, if you want a complex tool, use a complex tool.. maybe blender will work better for you.
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@OP, I don't agree. JQL already made a nice list of reasons why I also don't agree. Apparently you don't use plugins that benefit from 64 bits, Ruby 2.0 etc. I do agree the materials & mapping should benefit from some Trimble-love.
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Certainly lots to do to improve without getting overly complex (and use plugins for that). But what this has to do with Google or Trimble, IDK. Same team and leaders basically control SketchUp development and I assume they don't do many things, because they CAN'T (or can't yet), and not because some suit in Trimble is telling them "Don't improve it."
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@kaja9 said:
JQL:
Pbacot:
OK, I understand that SK was designed for building making at first, BUT - and this is a BIG BUT, I DON't want to continue in developing this software ONLY in this very specific and profiled users.
BECAUSE, I love SKetchupI said that to indicate that my perspective is colored by my background and needs (like anyone) and I appreciate so much more is being done with SU
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Re: Reported topic
A warning has been issued and we await reply
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...there ya go.
Somebody noticed "it is pretty weird in here"..
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well, this is probably my last comment here, regarding my previous post where I did a mistake -: there should be "I didnΕ₯ play" a 'l' is missing, of course
so - Never say Blender again! - I tried it, and my opinion it is exactly opposite to the sketchup absolutely misserable user interface.
Yes my requested features can be done through Plugins. And yes, plugins make SK 150% better. So why did I link this topic with Trimble? Because I have just feeling (my private opinion) that Trimble uses SK just to gain many new paid users, and SK is for them just a tool of earning money.
What is difficult to agree with fact that there is practically no difference between 2013-15? Meanwhile there are to many words about new versions and empty words - its just advertising.
Those minor improvements cannot overlay the 4 year of idleness.
Wanted say that with Google the things would go in different way, and more usable for us.
Are here a normal people, or am I talking just to Trimble and SKetchucation employees, who must agree with official way.. ? -
@kaja9 said:
Are here a normal people, or am I talking just to Trimble and SKetchucation employees, who must agree with official way.. ?
No normal people here, only over 300.000 SketchUcation employees...
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@kaja9 said:
Wanted say that with Google the things would go in different way, and more usable for us.
Are here a normal people, or am I talking just to Trimble and SKetchucation employees, who must agree with official way.. ?If you have a look at Google's handling of any software that they decide is 'at end of life', you will find that they normally bury it...
Google had decided SU [SketchUp] was of no further use to them, i.e. 'at it's end of life' , so, yes, it should have gone a different way, it should have been killed off and the developers sacked...
Fortunately for us, part of the SU user base, they agreed to sell it to Trimble instead of burying it...
Like the majority here, I don't work for Trimble or SCF , but I do have issues with people who admit to be using illegal software commenting negatively.
Trimble have allowed SU to develop way past anything Google ever desired...
and while there are lots still to be improved, this time it may actually happen...
john
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