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      suSteve
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      Do you have a copy of the skp you have used for the .png? I have exported to png (transparency) which is where the object was visible.

      thanks

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        driven
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        I don't know if you can exclude a 3d shape shadows, on a mac...

        have a look at tig's Shadow Projectorhttp://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323%26amp;t=41885
        you can hide everything else than export a png/tiff of just the shape of a shadow...
        this is geometry, on the ground...

        john

        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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        • jeff hammondJ Offline
          jeff hammond
          last edited by

          some rendering apps can render only shadows with transparent everything else.
          the upside is you get very clean shadows which render relatively quick.. the downside is it's maybe overkill for what you're trying to accomplish in the end.

          so what, exactly, are you trying to accomplish?

          dotdotdot

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            suSteve
            last edited by

            Thanks. I am on a Mac.

            I wanted to just export shadows only with a transparent background.

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              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              @susteve said:

              Thanks. I am on a Mac.

              I wanted to just export shadows only with a transparent background.

              like that's it? that's the final goal?

              my point is that there may be other ways to reach your goal

              dotdotdot

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                driven
                last edited by

                Jeff, Dave and I also use mac...

                I think tig's plugin or a renderer are the options...

                how are you wanting to use the results?

                john

                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                  suSteve
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                  I am following this http://www.ronenbekerman.com/making-of-urban-plaza/

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                    driven
                    last edited by

                    he is doing what you started with, the shadows are on all faces as well as the ground...

                    john

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      suSteve
                      last edited by

                      Thank you. At least I know that it is not possible to export shadows only with a transparent background on a Mac without a plugin

                      Thanks again

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        @susteve said:

                        Thank you. At least I know that it is not possible to export shadows only with a transparent background on a Mac without a plugin

                        Thanks again

                        just a fwiw..
                        you've been able to do this forever on Mac (natively).. Windows has just gained the capability in su2015

                        edit-- oh wait.. I misread what you wrote.. 😳 I'll look at it again later when I'm at a computer.

                        dotdotdot

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                          pbacot
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                          Is that what he did in the tutorial (great link--fine artist BTW)? No he just used a hidden line, white background, no-edges shadows export to png, and set the layer in PS to multiply.

                          If you want you can set png to transparent background (in the export dialog "Options"). The objects will still be white but you can set the color to alpha in PS (works with white background as well anyway).

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
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                            @box said:

                            With 2015 you can export ,png with transparent background.
                            Like this.

                            http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/Shadows.png

                            ha.. i see what you did there πŸ˜‰

                            (moved the geometry up and out of the view.. had me confused for a bit though)

                            dotdotdot

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                              pilou
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                              I believe that Renderiza has make a such plugin! πŸ˜‰

                              [SU]Ch by Renderiza
                              and find "shadow" πŸ˜‰

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                              My Little site :)

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                                Box
                                last edited by

                                Sorry I'm not near a computer. The geometry in mine is in full view but painted with a transparent png texture. And it's windows hence the transparent background.

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                                  jeff hammond
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                                  @pilou said:

                                  I believe that Renderiza has make a such plugin! πŸ˜‰

                                  that looks like it might do the trick.. i tried it in 2015 despite it not being listed as supported and yeah, doesn't work.. (says su8 & 2013).. i'll try it in 8 a little later.

                                  @box said:

                                  Sorry I'm not near a computer. The geometry in mine is in full view but painted with a transparent png texture. And it's windows hence the transparent background.

                                  ok, i see.

                                  re: transparent background.. the reason su2015 release notes say "transparent background upon export is available in windows" (or whatever) is because it's already been in mac since the beginning.. those type of abilities are built into OS X itself which made it easy for the devs to implement on mac..

                                  for instance.. notice the native osx screenshot above is a .png with drop shadow and transparent background.. macs are fancy like that :-D

                                  dotdotdot

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                                    Box
                                    last edited by

                                    I don't know what can and can't be done on a Mac, I gave my version of how to solve the question. Transparent texture transparent background and a jobs a carrot.

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                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by

                                      @box said:

                                      I don't know what can and can't be done on a Mac, I gave my version of how to solve the question. Transparent texture transparent background and a jobs a carrot.

                                      yeah, and i think yours is the best solution offered here.. especially for keeping it inside sketchup without a plugin

                                      i clarified that transparent exports are possible on mac since there seems to be some confusion in the thread about which OS is being used when in this case, it doesn't matter.. both su versions have the same capabilities/flaws regarding exporting transparent backgrounds and non-transparent objects (unless we use the method you've shown πŸ‘ )


                                      not necessarily your solution here @steve but following up on the rendering solution i mentioned earlier in case it helps others who might be reading.

                                      sketchup export - no shadows/shading:

                                      shadows1.png

                                      shadow pass render: (in this one, i didn't ignore any objects so i could get the semi-transparent shading on the faces)
                                      shadows2.png

                                      combined:
                                      shadows_merged.jpg


                                      example with only ground shadows.. ignore geometry
                                      shadow3.png


                                      of course, this is all going to depend on your renderer's capabilities.. i use indigo.. this is on my laptop which i don't have a license for so it's the free version of indigo. (watermark + size limit)
                                      ymmv

                                      [EDIT] oh, @pilou.. i tried the renderiza plugin on su8.. it doesn't work (i mean, the plugin works but it doesn't accomplish this particular task)

                                      dotdotdot

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                                      • BoxB Offline
                                        Box
                                        last edited by

                                        And roughly the same cluster of shapes with transparent texture and some edges and faces on and off.

                                        http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/7c7414e5-8105-4078-b053-c96dd4da7cec.png

                                        I must admit, I'm lost as to where this is going and as such am off to bed.

                                        BTW the transparent png texture that I used was discussed recently in this thread.
                                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15%26amp;t=60086

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                                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                          jeff hammond
                                          last edited by

                                          @box said:

                                          I must admit, I'm lost as to where this is going and as such am off to bed.

                                          going nowhere.. it's already been found out @steve was following ronen's tutorial improperly as there was no fancy transparent exports going on in there.

                                          i feel like you think i'm trying to arm wrestle over something when i'm just sharing ideas to the general community.


                                          using a renderer will allow you to get the shadows which fall on faces while still keeping the rest of the object transparent.. or block out shadows which shouldn't be visible.

                                          another use is for very high quality shadow work in large exports.. here's an example of that:
                                          (6000px wide -- view at full size)

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Dropbox - 404

                                          favicon

                                          (dl.dropboxusercontent.com)

                                          (8MB download)

                                          dotdotdot

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                                          • BoxB Offline
                                            Box
                                            last edited by

                                            God no Jeff, no arm wrestling.
                                            Just a bit confused by the complexity of the whole shadows thing.

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