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    • cottyC Offline
      cotty
      last edited by

      Sorry for disturbing the bad mood coming up with each new version of SketchUp, but I'm happy with the new release and all my installed plugins (>100) are working perfectly...

      my SketchUp gallery

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      • ken28875K Offline
        ken28875
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        Hi there,

        I just installed SketchUp 2014 and added all my plugins. Then I opened it and it crashed every time. There might be a conflict with some of the plugins, but I am not sure which ones.

        I have tons of plugins and installing them one by one to see which one causes the crash is kind of time of consuming. 😞

        Has anyone used SketchUp 2014 yet and experienced the same problem?

        Anyway I think I will stay away from it for now till I figure out what is wrong.

        Have a good weekend!

        _KN

        Follow Your Dreams.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
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          @charly2008 said:

          I am still very skeptical about the future development. Will plugins (Ruby 2.0), developed for Sketchup 2014 still be backward compatible in the future?

          Will we then have two SketchUp groups here in the Forum?
          All of my Plugins [several 100] were made v2014 compatible over the last few months. They still work on all of the earlier versions too. Most of the major Plugin authors have been working closely with Trimble over the last few months, discreetly in the background, to get their scripts to suit all versions [if they did not do so already], in anticipation of this update... That's why there has been a flurry of 'future-proofing' of scripts...

          There are some subtle changes to the way Ruby works, but 90% of Plugins will work out of the box in both versions.
          The newer Ruby is less forgiving of sloppy coding, so you just need to be a better coder.
          Many of the issues were already advised about in the earlier Ruby implementation anyway.
          New expanded and clearer error-messages explain what is up.
          There are bound to be a few issues, but they shouldn't be too hard to resolve...

          The main issue I expect to come up over the next few weeks is some incompatibility with v2014 because of a few older Plugin .rb files' "encoding": it was always recommended to make such files encoded as 'UTF8 without BOM' [to do with 'newline' characters etc] - that's the default on MACs. but 'ANSI' is the default in Windows Notepad.exe - in earlier versions Ruby could take this messing about, but in this newer version ANSI fileswill fail to load, with helpful error-messages. Notepad++.exe lets you set a suitable default encoding, and you can change the coding of an existing file and re-save it, so updating older Plugins is usually straightforward - if a pain. If a non-compliant .rb has been complied into an .rbs it will display similar errors - it cannot be fixed this way: in that case the author needs to correct the encoding of his .rb and recompile a new rbs, which again will suit version 2014 and earlier versions too...

          Do not copy old scripts from an earlier version.
          'Auto' Install the newest available versions from RBZ archives from the PluginStore, or the EWH if they are only available from there.
          If you find a failing script let the author know in the tool's thread, so that it can be fixed asap...

          TIG

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          • neetsN Offline
            neets
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            How do I upgrade with an Educational License? The website diverts you to their 'educational reseller' but the companies don't specify free downloads of 2014 if you're a current 2013 user. Should I go back to my UK reseller to request a free upgrade?

            Anita

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            • Bob JamesB Offline
              Bob James
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              @unknownuser said:

              If you find a failing script let the author know in the tool's thread, so that it can be fixed asap

              "tool's thread" ❓

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              • Rich O BrienR Online
                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by

                @bob james said:

                @unknownuser said:

                If you find a failing script let the author know in the tool's thread, so that it can be fixed asap

                "tool's thread" ❓

                In the PluginStore for the failing plugin click More Info.

                If you are redirected to the forum then report the bug there.

                If you are redirected to a Plugin Page. Click feedback and then report bug.

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                • PixeroP Offline
                  Pixero
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                  What about upgrade price from SU8? I haven't seen any info about it yet.

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
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                    @ken28875

                    In the last day or so there have been lots of posts about v2014 - read those - for example...
                    http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=512951#p512951
                    You must NOT blindly copy plugins across from older versions.
                    Some will work, but some might not.

                    The major Plugin authors have been working with Trimble flat-out [in secret] over the last few months to ensure that their Plugins are compatible with v2014, and of course keeping them usable in earlier versions too.

                    Use the PluginStore or EWH to get/install the latest versions of your Plugins into v2014.
                    Add a few at a time so you get to trap any issues...

                    There might still be a few that new upgrading, so if you find one let the author know in the Plugin's thread.
                    It is usually straightforward to make such Plugins suitable with the latest [improved] Ruby which is now shipped with v2014...

                    PS: I have merged this into the main v2014 thread...

                    TIG

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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                      Mike Lucey
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                      @cotty said:

                      Sorry for disturbing the bad mood coming up with each new version of SketchUp, but I'm happy with the new release and all my installed plugins (>100) are working perfectly...

                      ...... b b but if I remember correctly! Oh! I see now Cotty πŸ˜‰

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                      • 3dita3 Offline
                        3dita
                        last edited by

                        I am very skeptical about this release.. One thing that had got simpler in 2013 (plugin installation) has become a new nuisance, because the plugin folder has changed position...

                        Not sure what to think about it.

                        It has copied all my shortcuts from 2013,which is nice.. but.. there's is still something that has got me unconvinced.

                        (I will avoid asking for a 64 bit version, since you are not going to make one ever..)

                        3dita - Digital Visual Motion

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                        • S Offline
                          sanjeevkmishra
                          last edited by

                          Has anyone facing problem with vary?? I upgraded to SU2014, reinstalled vray but its not working... Has anybody got any suggestion???


                          Screen Shot 2014-03-01 at 6.04.54 pm.png

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            Vray issue addressed in this thread.
                            http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=322%26amp;t=56468

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                            • cottyC Offline
                              cotty
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                              @3dita said:

                              One thing that had got simpler in 2013 (plugin installation) has become a new nuisance, because the plugin folder has changed position...

                              There were hundreds of problems discussed in this forum because of missing permissions for the plugin folder. The change seems a good way to solve all those problems?! If you use one of the two recommended ways to install plugins (Pluginstore or Extension Warehouse) you will not even notice the change...

                              my SketchUp gallery

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                                sanjeevkmishra
                                last edited by

                                @box said:

                                Vray issue addressed in this thread.
                                http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=322%26amp;t=56468

                                thnx

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                                • J Offline
                                  jpalm32
                                  last edited by

                                  @krisidious said:

                                  Still tiny ass thumbnails in components and material browsers... what the hell people?

                                  Still no improvements to how to print as in the 21st century.
                                  Adjust the window to size of print/scale??? Really?

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                                  • arail1A Offline
                                    arail1
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                                    @mitcorb said:

                                    @arail1:
                                    The Plugin menu button does not appear on the Menu ribbon until you install a fresh plugin. This is something not yet documented in the Knowledge Center help.sketchup.com (so far as I know), nor has anyone explicitly enough included this in the threads I have read. Of course, you do know that the plugin destination folder is now under "...AppData...Roaming" and this path has been explained.

                                    I might mention that, in order to see a couple of plugin toolbars after loading, I had to restart 2014. But this also happened a few times in 2013version. And they weren't simply lurking among my desktop icons. No big complaints.

                                    Thanks for that.
                                    Because so much of the chatter on the forums is about plugins and installing plugins, it might be wise for someone knowledgeable to post a sticky that summarizes all the useful info that's scattered throughout these threads - where to install them, the info you provided about the Plugin button, etc.

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                                    • D Offline
                                      d12dozr
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                                      @pixero said:

                                      What about upgrade price from SU8? I haven't seen any info about it yet.

                                      Jan, it's $95 for a single license upgrade from SU8. More info here: Upgrading to SketchUp Pro 2014

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                                      • PixeroP Offline
                                        Pixero
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks. Now I have to talk to my boss...

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                                        • R Offline
                                          rv1974
                                          last edited by

                                          no windowizer, no chuck vally plugins, no 1001bit tools.. and many others
                                          Trimble what have you done??? I can understand you were busy developing revolutionary new arc tool but why to ruin the other people done 😑

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                                          • cottyC Offline
                                            cotty
                                            last edited by

                                            So you would suggest to stick with an old Ruby because not all old plugins work on the first day after this update? Most of the plugins were updated in the background in the last month (BIG thank you to the authors), some are repaired in the last few days (e.g. flattery) and perhaps the remaining will follow in the next days...

                                            my SketchUp gallery

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