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    • T Offline
      toddakeson
      last edited by

      Here you go.


      Pucci Chandelier_attempt1.jpg

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      • T Offline
        toddakeson
        last edited by

        Complete mess. haha

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        • Rich O BrienR Offline
          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by

          Can you share the .png?

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Is it seamless?

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            • T Offline
              toddakeson
              last edited by

              Here it is..


              RALPH-PUCCI_map2.png

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                toddakeson
                last edited by

                Any tips if I actually want to model the geometry?

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  That texture ain't seamless.

                  To model something this complex in SketchUp is not advised.

                  Try Rhino with Grasshopper

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                    toddakeson
                    last edited by

                    Is there any way to make the texture seamless? I imagine I could work it out in Photoshop?

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                    • micioneM Offline
                      micione
                      last edited by

                      A quick attempt:
                      Tools used:
                      Tools on surface (trace a path)
                      Tape Maker (to create a solid conical)
                      Artisan (Sub / sm)


                      capture-20131206-193908.png

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                      • olisheaO Offline
                        olishea
                        last edited by

                        You can make a seamless texture in photoshop using the offset technique but it can be hit or miss depending on the size and type of texture. Google photoshop seamless texture offset. Of course it is possible though.

                        I tried something similar to this a while back and almost went crazy. It's really quite difficult.

                        I would start with a truncated globe and make a rotation array around the volume. Use JPP (joint push pull) to add thickness and then subdivide with Artisan to make everything smooth.

                        If you model in segments then make a rotation array you can ensure the geometry is seamless.

                        honeycomb lamp thread...which kinda went off topic!
                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=333%26amp;t=50584

                        also a working model that may give you some ideas of how to tackle the issue in sketchup:


                        honeycomb.png

                        oli

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                          toddakeson
                          last edited by

                          Thank you Micione and Olishea for the great suggestions!

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                          • olisheaO Offline
                            olishea
                            last edited by

                            I attempted the truncated globe idea but it doesn't work. I tried using a honeycomb to keep things simple. Once subdivided it keeps the edges straight which isn't what I wanted to achieve. It won't subdivide into a globe shape once I had draped the honeycomb over. 😑


                            honeycomb2.png

                            oli

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                            • Rich O BrienR Offline
                              Rich O Brien Moderator
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                              ralphy-balphy.png

                              Getting to this is straight forward. It is the missing elements that require manual rework....lot's of it πŸ˜•

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                              • olisheaO Offline
                                olishea
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                                How did you do that?! I can think of a few ways but they take a loooong time. Did you twist the globe and multi face offset? Deleting the inner parts etc...

                                [edit] I managed to do it but it's by no means made up of quads. Messy mesh. 😞

                                oli

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                                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Vertex Tools with soft falloff and select the top vert and rotate...

                                  Image 12.png

                                  Pull a copy off one twister out blah blah blah...

                                  Blender takes about 3secs to do the same when using proportional editing for the translations

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                                  • cottyC Offline
                                    cotty
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                                    @toddakeson said:

                                    Any tips if I actually want to model the geometry?

                                    I think there is one basic element in there which you "only" have to position correctly...

                                    cotty_RP.jpg


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                                    • olisheaO Offline
                                      olishea
                                      last edited by

                                      I made a sphere, offset the faces, deleted inner faces, used FFD to twist the globe and squash it. Then JPP and Artisan. 😳 Not quads though. 😞 And it only took 20 minutes to display the geometry. I can make a pretty photo-realistic looking tree with 5 times less polys!


                                      globe1.png

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                                      • olisheaO Offline
                                        olishea
                                        last edited by

                                        @cotty said:

                                        I think there is one basic element in there which you "only" have to position correctly...

                                        ONLY!! lol Just tried, failed, gave up πŸ˜„

                                        What's worse is that these elements seem to overlap each other in places. ❓

                                        oli

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                                        • olisheaO Offline
                                          olishea
                                          last edited by

                                          Got something a little bit closer.

                                          Left side I just manually copied Cotty's component around a globe. Right side I used fur plugin. Managed to get some good overlaps but it's still very messy. πŸ˜†

                                          The fourth image just uses less components. You have to use a sphere with less faces as fur plugin sometimes uses more than one component per face, even though I told it not to. πŸ˜†

                                          Fifth image I squashed a sphere using FFD and then ran the fur plugin. I can't think of any other way to do it. Once you use the Cotty component it's a 2 minute job with fur plugin.


                                          cotty_ralphpucci_V6_1.png


                                          cotty_ralphpucci_V6_2.png


                                          cotty_ralphpucci_V6_3.png


                                          cotty_ralphpucci_V6_4.png


                                          cotty_ralphpucci_V6_5.png

                                          oli

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                                          • olisheaO Offline
                                            olishea
                                            last edited by

                                            How is the real lamp illuminated? From the bottom dish?

                                            I'll stop posting now I don't want to spam the thread lol


                                            cotty_ralphpucci_V6_6.jpg

                                            oli

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