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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      I thought I'd start a new thread for everyone to participate if they want, a thread we can all learn together in.

      I have in the past tried and quit on Blender many times as it really is a complex software, again I'm going to attempt to learn it as the benefits by far outweigh the stress of learning a new software.
      Like the Vaping thread in the corner bar where we supported one another to quit smoking (I'm now 7 months cigarette free) I thought learning Blender as a group would be easier as we can ask those stupid noob questions with impunity here.

      The reasons for learning Blender for me are numerous from animations, nurb modeling, general modeling, staging and compiling when Sketchup hits it's poly limit, UV mapping SU models, Video editing, Motion tracking for video montage, etc.

      I was hoping we could share resources and discuss workflow here, I know Rich O'Brian has made some huge strides in Blender to a point that he can guide us to a point where we are familiar to go it on our own, he made a few tutorials a while back for me that I hope he would share here for all to use.

      Blender is free so if you want to join this learning thread then download the new version here: http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/

      If you are learning Blender feel free to chirp in and let us know your level and how and why you use it and also how you learned it (from what tutorials and sources)

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      • soloS Offline
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        I guess I'll ask the first question, Is there a way to fix a Sketchup mesh in Blender?

        I would love to turn it to quads or something useable in Blender, are there tools to change tri's to quads or at least smooth out the mesh?

        This is how it looks in SU:

        su image.jpg

        But when in Blender it looks like this:

        thea logo in blender.jpg

        I assume Blender turns all ngons into tri's?

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        • cottyC Offline
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          @solo said:

          I have in the past tried and quit on Blender many times ...

          I know what you mean 😒
          Great idea to start this thread!

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
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            Exporting as obj seems a slight improvement but still not useable.

            export obj.jpg

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            • D Offline
              dedmin
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              Welcome to the Club! 😄
              I'm in the same boat - started a month ago to climb the Blender Mountain!
              I started with these free tutorials:

              http://gryllus.net/Blender/3D.html
              https://www.youtube.com/user/BlenderForNoobs/videos
              http://cgcookie.com/blender/cgc-courses/blender-basics-introduction-for-beginners/
              https://www.youtube.com/user/cgboorman/videos

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
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                @dedmin said:

                Welcome to the Club! 😄
                I'm in the same boat - started a month ago to climb the Blender Mountain!
                I started with these free tutorials:

                http://gryllus.net/Blender/3D.html
                https://www.youtube.com/user/BlenderForNoobs/videos
                http://cgcookie.com/blender/cgc-courses/blender-basics-introduction-for-beginners/
                https://www.youtube.com/user/cgboorman/videos

                Thanks, will look at those links.

                So how much have you learned so far?

                Maybe one day this place can be called "SketchuBlend" 😄

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • soloS Offline
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                  I can recommend Lynda.com as the ONLY tutorial so far that kept me interested and on a path to learn Blender, I cannot say if it's because of the quality and good skills of teacher or the fact that I was paying and thus was forced to get money's worth.

                  http://www.lynda.com/Blender-training-tutorials/164-0.html

                  Once that is done then there are many awesome sites with more advanced tutorials, the most important is knowing where everything is, here is a pdf cheat with all the shortcut keys from BlenderGuru.

                  Blender_Cheat_Sheet.pdf

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                    Alt+J to turn tris to quads

                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
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                      I've watched only some of them, but they were great...
                      Youtube playlist from Andrew Price

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
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                        Just a query as to why you say the above is unusable?

                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                        • D Offline
                          dedmin
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                          Baby steps - don't have much time to learn.
                          Some tips for Sketchupers:

                          • in SketchUp we select with a left mouse button, but in Blender by default it is the right button - so, change it here:
                            2013-11-03_215458.jpg
                          • zoom to mouse position:
                            2013-11-03_215751.jpg
                            -Blender doesn't warn you to save the file when quitting, so check this:
                            2013-11-03_220054.jpg

                          And to unify SketchUp and Blender navigation adjust SketchUp's keystrokes the same as in Blender.

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                          • soloS Offline
                            solo
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                            Those are good tips, first thing I did was switch to left button, the zoom to mouse point was brilliant, gives an SU feel to orbit in Blender.

                            http://www.solos-art.com

                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                            • D Offline
                              dedmin
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                              • for heavy files try this setting:
                                2013-11-03_221342.jpg
                              • to have ortho when switching top/bottom/left/right/front/back check this:
                                2013-11-03_221721.jpg
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                              • J Offline
                                jaxcoffee
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                                I decided to go the SolidWorks direction instead of Blender. If I'm going to learn something more complex than SketchUp, I'm going to learn an industry standard. At least that is my reasoning. Your milage may vary. Would love to see this kind of thread for SolidWorks. Anyway, carry on. This is a good thing for Blender folks.

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                                • D Offline
                                  dedmin
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                                  We love plugins and scripts - here is the Blender's place to search for treasures:

                                  301 Moved Permanently

                                  favicon

                                  (wiki.blender.org)

                                  And Blender comes with some that are not enabled by default:
                                  2013-11-03_222354.jpg

                                  This is from here - http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?316335-2-69-released

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  For those interested and that do not use regularly update builds (buildbot/graphicall), the official releases do not include the addons_contrib folder that contain many addons that some may find usefull.
                                  I have uploaded the recent one i had from r61020 (from the buildbot) on that dropbox link - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0eert8068okz3ag/addons_contrib269.rar?m

                                  To install, just take the "addons_contrib" directory from the downloaded addons_contrib269.rar and move it to
                                  \yourblender269directory\2.69\scripts
                                  So you obtain
                                  \yourblender269directory\2.69\scripts\addons_contr ib\

                                  Once done, when launching Blender and going to File -> User Preferences -> Addons, you'll see them if you enable the "Testing" button
                                  (additionally you'll have more themes)

                                  Note : the addon contrib does not include every user made addons available for Blender, you'll have to remember there are several of them that are not in it but that you can still find in the Addon&Release board :
                                  http://blenderartists.org/forum/foru...pts-and-Themes

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                                  • soloS Offline
                                    solo
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                                    @jaxcoffee said:

                                    I decided to go the SolidWorks direction instead of Blender. If I'm going to learn something more complex than SketchUp, I'm going to learn an industry standard. At least that is my reasoning. Your milage may vary. Would love to see this kind of thread for SolidWorks. Anyway, carry on. This is a good thing for Blender folks.

                                    I looked at SolidWorks, it is an awesome bit of software, especially for engineering and I guess if you intend 3D printing.

                                    http://www.solos-art.com

                                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                      @Pete

                                      Can the Thea logo be shared?

                                      Why is the tris a problem?

                                      What is it you want exactly to do with the mesh?

                                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                                      • soloS Offline
                                        solo
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                                        @rich o brien said:

                                        @Pete

                                        Can the Thea logo be shared?

                                        Why is the tris a problem?

                                        What is it you want exactly to do with the mesh?

                                        Yes, here it is:

                                        AutoSave_thea logo.skp

                                        I want to follow a Blender tutorial and finally render it with Thea4Blender, but I cannot get a smooth mesh in Blender in order to render and put materials on that I need.

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

                                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                          Are you setting the shading to smooth in the toolshelf?

                                          Whilst in object mode press T to show/hide toolshelf. Select the object and choose smooth for the shading

                                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                                          • soloS Offline
                                            solo
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                                            @rich o brien said:

                                            Are you setting the shading to smooth in the toolshelf?

                                            Whilst in object mode press T to show/hide toolshelf. Select the object and choose smooth for the shading

                                            I tried that originally but looks ugly.


                                            logo smooth.jpg

                                            http://www.solos-art.com

                                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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