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    • E 離線
      Einstein
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      Hi!

      I caught a bug. Here it is:

      I extruded several connected faces with JPP and choose the option which removes source faces, leaving only extrusion. I confirmed the extrusion and then did UNDO. Unfortunately undoing can't be done in one go. Instead, it's "broken" into small steps and it brings back my source geometry edge by edge so I have to press UNDO many times.

      It happens with every sub-tool of JPP.

      I'm using SU17 with newest JPP and newest LibFredo.

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      • Dave RD 離線
        Dave R
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        You would make it easier to sort out if you share the SKP file that exhibits this behavior. I just tried it and found Undo still works in a single step.
        Click on the picture if it doesn't move.

        Etaoin Shrdlu

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        • E 離線
          Einstein
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          It's OK when I use THICKEN option. But UNDO breaks when using PUSH-PULL option (source faces get erased).

          Here's my file:


          JPP undo bug.skp

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          • fredo6F 離線
            fredo6
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            @einstein said:

            Hi!

            I caught a bug. Here it is:

            I extruded several connected faces with JPP and choose the option which removes source faces, leaving only extrusion. I confirmed the extrusion and then did UNDO. Unfortunately undoing can't be done in one go. Instead, it's "broken" into small steps and it brings back my source geometry edge by edge so I have to press UNDO many times.

            It happens with every sub-tool of JPP.

            I'm using SU17 with newest JPP and newest LibFredo.

            There could be an error. Could you open the Ruby console while doing the JPP operation.

            Also, does it happen with any shape or model, or specifically for one?

            Fredo

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            • E 離線
              Einstein
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              There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

              The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.


              ruby error.png

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              • fredo6F 離線
                fredo6
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                @einstein said:

                There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

                The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.

                This seems definitely to be related the another plugin, jbb_layer_panels, which has an observer and does not cover cases when layers are deleted. Who is the author?

                I use the TEMP layer to simply hide faces temporarily, but JPP (as FredoCorner) deletes the layer afterwards.

                Fredo

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                • JQLJ 離線
                  JQL
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                  @fredo6 said:

                  @einstein said:

                  There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

                  The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.

                  This seems definitely to be related the another plugin, jbb_layer_panels, which has an observer and does not cover cases when layers are deleted. Who is the author?

                  I use the TEMP layer to simply hide faces temporarily, but JPP (as FredoCorner) deletes the layer afterwards.

                  Fredo

                  I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

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                  • fredo6F 離線
                    fredo6
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                    @jql said:

                    I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

                    But the small bug can be fixed by in Layer Panels...

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                    • jujuJ 離線
                      juju
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                      @fredo6 said:

                      @jql said:

                      I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

                      But the small bug can be fixed by in Layer Panels...

                      Layers Panel is jiminy-billy-bob's work, it is no longer supported and was open sourced, this was then picked up (some development and bugfixes done) and turned into Layers Organizer by George T.

                      It works pretty well, excellent work by jiminy-billy-bob for the original and George T for taking it further.

                      Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                      • JQLJ 離線
                        JQL
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                        @fredo6 said:

                        @jql said:

                        I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

                        But the small bug can be fixed by in Layer Panels...

                        It's probably true, but Layer's Panel isn't being maintained anymore for a long time. Thomas (the autor) didn't have the time and open sourced it.

                        Even so, it's one of the most useful plugins to have around.

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                        • E 離線
                          Einstein
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                          @fredo6 said:

                          @einstein said:

                          There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

                          The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.

                          This seems definitely to be related the another plugin, jbb_layer_panels, which has an observer and does not cover cases when layers are deleted. Who is the author?

                          I use the TEMP layer to simply hide faces temporarily, but JPP (as FredoCorner) deletes the layer afterwards.

                          Fredo

                          The author of this plugin is Thomas Hauchecorne.

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                          • O 離線
                            oswalgar
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                            Muy buena extensión muchas graciaas!!

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                            • M 離線
                              magazines
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                              Hi.
                              This is a fantastic plugin that has made models possible for me in sketchup that I thought would never work.
                              That said, I'm posting here because I am having trouble with the follow me pushpull part of this.

                              I have a project to extrude letters from a line form down to a near cubic form. 8" tall letter in edge form extruded by 10".
                              Linear letters work great! T, 4, N, etc all are fine. But curves, man, they're a problem.

                              Looking around I tried to find ways to complete this kind of extrusion, but everything seems to cause messed up internal geometry. And I tried the basic follow me, curviloft, extrude by rails, etc.
                              The best tool for the job seemed to be the follow me function of this tool. As I say, works great on linear geometry. But due to the non-radial curve of the letter forms O, G, Q, 6 - I'm just driving myself crazy here.

                              I'm absolutely not sure if there is a better way to do this, or if I am using FollowmePushPull Interactive properly here.
                              If anyone has any suggestions, or if I should post this elsewhere, please let me know.

                              Thanks for any help!


                              Trials - O, most basic won't work either


                              G not working


                              T no problem, but no curves


                              sketchup doc

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                              • pilouP 離線
                                pilou
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                                Seems you must have quadrangular hidden trimed geometry surface! 😉

                                So take some cylinders and deform their Diameters after Joint PushPull as you want with Scale tool!

                                GIF_cylinder.gif

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • M 離線
                                  magazines
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Hello!
                                  I think I have tried what you are demonstrating. Here I pull up with normal JPP as your gif shows on the top face. I do see that a number of the faces are triangles and others are quads. Do you think this is the problem?
                                  Here's another pic.
                                  It looks to me that the issue is more about the extrusion causing intersecting planes.
                                  When I did it before I used the followme JPP option pulling the flat face on the bottom, but it surely resulted in intersecting planes too.
                                  I wonder what other approach I might take.
                                  Thanks for taking a look!

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                                  • fredo6F 離線
                                    fredo6
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                                    Pilou,

                                    You should move to the latest version of JPP, where the interactive selection process is more natural (and where bugs have been fixed too).

                                    Fredo

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                                    • gillesG 離線
                                      gilles
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                                      @magazines said:

                                      Hello!
                                      I think I have tried what you are demonstrating. Here I pull up with normal JPP as your gif shows on the top face. I do see that a number of the faces are triangles and others are quads. Do you think this is the problem?
                                      Here's another pic.
                                      It looks to me that the issue is more about the extrusion causing intersecting planes.
                                      When I did it before I used the followme JPP option pulling the flat face on the bottom, but it surely resulted in intersecting planes too.
                                      I wonder what other approach I might take.
                                      Thanks for taking a look!

                                      This one?

                                      G.gif

                                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                      • pilouP 離線
                                        pilou
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                                        @Gilles : Oui mais maintenant il faut faire une "épaisseur générale" (pour je ne sais qu'elles raisons) avec le JPP ! 😉
                                        Et c'est là que cela peut coincer suivant les natures des surfaces et leurs intersections!

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • pilouP 離線
                                          pilou
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          @Fredo Thx for the tip! ☀

                                          jpp.jpg

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • gillesG 離線
                                            gilles
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                                            Hum...

                                            Je pense que le résultat recherché est plutôt ça.

                                            G2.gif

                                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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