[Plugin][$] JointPushPull Interactive - v4.8a - 30 Mar 24

fredo6

Thanks for creating these awesome tools! i just tried the JPP "project on a plane" trick on some topo i created and I'm getting a Ruby Error. it says "Error in generation of the geometry" and "Not enough points - at least 3 required". Any Idea what is going on?
-thanks

I would need to get the model, and also have the full text of the error message.

Fredo

thelorax4

I used to use this tool extensively to create curbs from complicated terrain, and it worked almost perfectly. The new version, however, with all it's options, no longer has a tool for extruding in z axis, which baffles me. Does anyone know if there's a variable that can be changed in settings to fix this, or know of another tool to achieve the same effect?

Thanks

fredo6

@thelorax4 said:

The new version, however, with all it's options, no longer has a tool for extruding in z axis, which baffles me. Does anyone know if there's a variable that can be changed in settings to fix this, or know of another tool to achieve the same effect?

Could you show a sample of model to illustrate your problem.

Fredo

jwhida

Hi FREDO,

This plugin is sooo good. Thankyou. Donation on its way.
There is one quirk that i dont understand and makes the plugin unuseful when dealing with 'group copies'

If editing a group of which copies have been made, all group copies are also affected. I'd expect this behaviour only for components not groups.
The behaviour id expect is that if i joint push pull a face of a group, that only that group is modified, not every other instance.

Have I overlooked some setting to turn this behaviour off ?

Cheers
John

fredo6

@jwhida said:

There is one quirk that i dont understand and makes the plugin unuseful when dealing with 'group copies'

If editing a group of which copies have been made, all group copies are also affected. I'd expect this behaviour only for components not groups.

I'll probably have to fix this general issue, not just for JPP, which comes from a side effect of Sketchup (freshly copied groups behave as components until they are edited, for optimization).

In the meantime, I would suggest that you go inside the group to do the Joint Push Pull, as you would do for the native Push Pull. The capability to operate across boundaries of group and components is just a convenience.

Fredo

jwhida

Ok that makes sense, i was aware of that optimisation of the group definition.
I'll happily edit from within the group for now, but definitely look forward to an option to treat group copies as individual groups when using joint push pull when you get time to implement it.
Thanks

Einstein

Hi!

I caught a bug. Here it is:

I extruded several connected faces with JPP and choose the option which removes source faces, leaving only extrusion. I confirmed the extrusion and then did UNDO. Unfortunately undoing can't be done in one go. Instead, it's "broken" into small steps and it brings back my source geometry edge by edge so I have to press UNDO many times.

It happens with every sub-tool of JPP.

I'm using SU17 with newest JPP and newest LibFredo.

Dave R

You would make it easier to sort out if you share the SKP file that exhibits this behavior. I just tried it and found Undo still works in a single step.
Click on the picture if it doesn't move.

Einstein

It's OK when I use THICKEN option. But UNDO breaks when using PUSH-PULL option (source faces get erased).

Here's my file:

JPP undo bug.skp

fredo6

@einstein said:

Hi!

I caught a bug. Here it is:

I extruded several connected faces with JPP and choose the option which removes source faces, leaving only extrusion. I confirmed the extrusion and then did UNDO. Unfortunately undoing can't be done in one go. Instead, it's "broken" into small steps and it brings back my source geometry edge by edge so I have to press UNDO many times.

It happens with every sub-tool of JPP.

I'm using SU17 with newest JPP and newest LibFredo.

There could be an error. Could you open the Ruby console while doing the JPP operation.

Also, does it happen with any shape or model, or specifically for one?

Fredo

Einstein

There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.

ruby error.png

fredo6

@einstein said:

There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.

This seems definitely to be related the another plugin, jbb_layer_panels, which has an observer and does not cover cases when layers are deleted. Who is the author?

I use the TEMP layer to simply hide faces temporarily, but JPP (as FredoCorner) deletes the layer afterwards.

Fredo

JQL

@fredo6 said:

@einstein said:

There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.

This seems definitely to be related the another plugin, jbb_layer_panels, which has an observer and does not cover cases when layers are deleted. Who is the author?

I use the TEMP layer to simply hide faces temporarily, but JPP (as FredoCorner) deletes the layer afterwards.

Fredo

I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

fredo6

@jql said:

I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

But the small bug can be fixed by in Layer Panels...

juju

@fredo6 said:

@jql said:

I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

But the small bug can be fixed by in Layer Panels...

Layers Panel is jiminy-billy-bob's work, it is no longer supported and was open sourced, this was then picked up (some development and bugfixes done) and turned into Layers Organizer by George T.

It works pretty well, excellent work by jiminy-billy-bob for the original and George T for taking it further.

JQL

@fredo6 said:

@jql said:

I'm used to have this layer turned on by default for a long long time. Layer's panel is a fundamental tool.

But the small bug can be fixed by in Layer Panels...

It's probably true, but Layer's Panel isn't being maintained anymore for a long time. Thomas (the autor) didn't have the time and open sourced it.

Even so, it's one of the most useful plugins to have around.

Einstein

@fredo6 said:

@einstein said:

There's an error related to layers. Any time your plugins are used, there's a new layer created "LIBFREDO6_TEMP_LAYER", the geometry-to-remove is moved to that layer and it immediately gets turned off, probably due to another plugin that I use - LAYERS PANEL. As long as I remember to turn on this layer, everything goes fine and UNDO doesn't break anymore.

The bug/error is not related to any particular model or shape.

This seems definitely to be related the another plugin, jbb_layer_panels, which has an observer and does not cover cases when layers are deleted. Who is the author?

I use the TEMP layer to simply hide faces temporarily, but JPP (as FredoCorner) deletes the layer afterwards.

Fredo

The author of this plugin is Thomas Hauchecorne.

oswalgar

Muy buena extensión muchas graciaas!!

magazines

Hi.
This is a fantastic plugin that has made models possible for me in sketchup that I thought would never work.
That said, I'm posting here because I am having trouble with the follow me pushpull part of this.

I have a project to extrude letters from a line form down to a near cubic form. 8" tall letter in edge form extruded by 10".
Linear letters work great! T, 4, N, etc all are fine. But curves, man, they're a problem.

Looking around I tried to find ways to complete this kind of extrusion, but everything seems to cause messed up internal geometry. And I tried the basic follow me, curviloft, extrude by rails, etc.
The best tool for the job seemed to be the follow me function of this tool. As I say, works great on linear geometry. But due to the non-radial curve of the letter forms O, G, Q, 6 - I'm just driving myself crazy here.

I'm absolutely not sure if there is a better way to do this, or if I am using FollowmePushPull Interactive properly here.
If anyone has any suggestions, or if I should post this elsewhere, please let me know.

Thanks for any help!

Trials - O, most basic won't work either

G not working

T no problem, but no curves

sketchup doc

pilou

Seems you must have quadrangular hidden trimed geometry surface!

So take some cylinders and deform their Diameters after Joint PushPull as you want with Scale tool!