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    • dereiD Offline
      derei
      last edited by

      Two changes would be great for this plugin, as it works somehow against "intuition":

      -first would be Press RETURN to exit (that's the ENTER key, and usually is used to CONFIRM a action, not to cancel it) - best would be to use ESC Key

      -second would be the obligation of inserting push value with (-) AFTER the push action was initialized. It is great to let the option there, in case the user really needs to revert the direction, but it would be better that once a number was introduced, to take "by default" the pushing direction already initialized by the user.

      Another thing is that AFTER doing a JPP operation, I must be very careful what tool or key I press, or I risk to have my operation canceled... this is extremely frustrating, as there is no intuitive action. As I said before, I am tempted to press ENTER - but guess what? I cancel my work. If I press Space Bar (to go to select tool) it happens the same, if I click on screen I also cancel the operation... every time is "lucky guess". In my opinion should be clear: ESC= Abort, ENTER=Commit. Nothing around. To not exit from operation until ESC or ENTER was pressed. This way there is no chance of mistake.

      I hope this suggestions make sense.
      Thank you.

      DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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      • fredo6F Offline
        fredo6
        last edited by

        Do you have a model where this happens? It must be related to the Preview mode, when you have a lot of faces.

        • Enter / Return is used to perform the Push Pull, so that you don't even need to drag the faces. The cursor must be still on one face, since when the cursor is in the empty space, it is used to exit the tool.

        • Escape does Abort when in interactive mode

        • Spacebar functions as in any Sketchup tool. If you did not commit beforehands, it simply exits with doing nothing.

        Fredo

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        • dereiD Offline
          derei
          last edited by

          yes, I had many faces in the model (organic modelling)...
          But why there are 2 different uses for ENTER (when cursor on face, or not on face?) Is possible that is why I miss it many times... because i move the cursor around. I am not used to pay attention to it when i don't actively use it to manipulate geometry. Do you think this behavior is actually useful?

          Thanks for all explanations πŸ˜‰

          DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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          • JQLJ Offline
            JQL
            last edited by

            Fredo,

            Would it be easy to have normal push pull Taper with an angle or a offset distance instead of exclusivelly by ratio? It would be a nice feature to have for chanfering faces outside their plane with a double click. (I love this double click through groups/components)

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            • B Offline
              bapito
              last edited by

              Where do i download it!!!???!!!

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
                last edited by

                @bapito said:

                Where do i download it!!!???!!!

                See the first post of this thread. It is clearly spelled out with bold type and links.

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                • A Offline
                  Arctura
                  last edited by

                  Hi I'm having a small issue that I can't for the life of me understand.
                  I'm extruding the wall of a truncated cone, or more like a rounded plate that along with 11 other identical plates will make up the cone. I'm trying to make flanges around the sides of one plate to then instance it, but the sides keep intersecting and I can't seem to control them! 😞
                  I did manage to get it right at first, but there were some other issues with the model so I have restarted and this time around I can't get it to work.
                  I'm using Joint Push Pull and Round Push Pull.


                  Description of intersection problem

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                  • PixeroP Offline
                    Pixero
                    last edited by

                    I'm getting this error message when trying to Joint Push pull:

                    ` [/Date: 21-Sep-16 09:11:28
                    An error occurred in Joint Push Pull
                    Error in generation of the geometry

                    undefined method `smooth?' for nil:NilClass

                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1107 -- block in geometry_coplanar_edges_overhang
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1105 -- each
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1105 -- each_with_index
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1105 -- geometry_coplanar_edges_overhang
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 354 -- block in geometry_robot_erase_coplanar_edges
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 352 -- each
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 352 -- geometry_robot_erase_coplanar_edges
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 214 -- robot_call_action
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 177 -- geometry_robot_exec
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 160 -- geometry_robot
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 75 -- block in geometry_execute
                    Lib6Operation.rb: 332 -- call
                    Lib6Operation.rb: 332 -- step_geometry
                    Lib6Operation.rb: 374 -- start_execution
                    JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 75 -- geometry_execute
                    JointPushPullTool.rb: 892 -- go_preview_or_geom
                    JointPushPullTool.rb: 698 -- dragging_stop
                    JointPushPullTool.rb: 1320 -- onLButtonUp`

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
                      last edited by

                      @pixero

                      Thanks for signaling. This seems to be an unusual case.
                      Anyway, I have fixed the problem and will re-release soon.

                      Fredo

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                      • S Offline
                        surfmike
                        last edited by

                        Hi. I'm having a problem with the plugin gui showing up really small in SU. See attached picture.
                        I'm on SU2016, OS X 10.9.5.
                        How can I make it bigger?
                        //Mike

                        it's small...

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                        • fredo6F Offline
                          fredo6
                          last edited by

                          @surfmike said:

                          Hi. I'm having a problem with the plugin gui showing up really small in SU. See attached picture.
                          I'm on SU2016, OS X 10.9.5.
                          How can I make it bigger?
                          //Mike

                          [attachment=0:26p179xb]<!-- ia0 -->Screen Shot 2016-11-26 at 11.35.17.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:26p179xb]

                          Mike,

                          If you go to Windows > libFredo6 Settings... > Default Parameters..., you will find an option "Retina Screen" in the section "Palette Configuration".

                          If you check the option, you should get the palette buttons bigger (x 2). However, the text may remain small.

                          If you are OK, and since you are on SU2016, you can help me to see if we can resolve the issue, if you are OK to test some changes in the LibFredo6 library. I was hoping that it would be solved by Sketchup 2017, but that's not the case!

                          Otherwise, other high-dpi screen users have discussed some ways to avoid the issue by system set up. See discussion here.

                          Fredo6

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                          • pbacotP Offline
                            pbacot
                            last edited by

                            What may I be doing wrong. Trying to pull up three surfaces sharing three edges.

                            ate: 30-Nov-16 08:55:30
                            An error occurred in Joint Push Pull
                            Error in generation of the geometry

                            Could not compute valid matrix from points

                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1169 -- position_material
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1169 -- block in geometry_transfer_material_top
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1145 -- each
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 1145 -- geometry_transfer_material_top
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 337 -- block in geometry_robot_transfer_material
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 337 -- each
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 337 -- geometry_robot_transfer_material
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 212 -- robot_call_action
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 177 -- geometry_robot_exec
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 160 -- geometry_robot
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 75 -- block in geometry_execute
                            Lib6Operation.rb:: 332 -- call
                            Lib6Operation.rb:: 332 -- step_geometry
                            Lib6Operation.rb:: 374 -- start_execution
                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb:: 75 -- geometry_execute
                            JointPushPullTool.rb:: 890 -- go_preview_or_geom
                            JointPushPullTool.rb:: 696 -- dragging_stop
                            JointPushPullTool.rb:: 1318 -- onLButtonUp

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
                              last edited by

                              I guessed that although it looked simple, there might be some errant geometry from making the faces. I grouped the faces and ran TT Cleanup3 and that fixed it.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • S Offline
                                surfmike
                                last edited by

                                @fredo6 said:

                                @surfmike said:

                                Hi. I'm having a problem with the plugin gui showing up really small in SU. See attached picture.
                                I'm on SU2016, OS X 10.9.5.
                                How can I make it bigger?
                                //Mike

                                [attachment=0:leehgwfs]<!-- ia0 -->Screen Shot 2016-11-26 at 11.35.17.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:leehgwfs]

                                Mike,

                                If you go to Windows > libFredo6 Settings... > Default Parameters..., you will find an option "Retina Screen" in the section "Palette Configuration".

                                If you check the option, you should get the palette buttons bigger (x 2). However, the text may remain small.

                                If you are OK, and since you are on SU2016, you can help me to see if we can resolve the issue, if you are OK to test some changes in the LibFredo6 library. I was hoping that it would be solved by Sketchup 2017, but that's not the case!

                                Otherwise, other high-dpi screen users have discussed some ways to avoid the issue by system set up. See discussion here.

                                Fredo6

                                Hi Fredo,

                                Sorry for late response.
                                Tried it.
                                The field/icons becme bigger.
                                Still small text size.
                                /Mike

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                                • K Offline
                                  Kawet
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Fredo,

                                  I am a beginner in the use of Sketchup so maybe I did a bad manipulation, but for me, the installation of plugins JoinPushPull and Tools on Surface doesn't work (signature obsolete).
                                  Do you have an explanation?
                                  My version of SU is 17.1.173 and I'm on Mac.
                                  Thank you for your help.

                                  Kawet

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                                  • jujuJ Offline
                                    juju
                                    last edited by

                                    @kawet said:

                                    I am a beginner in the use of Sketchup so maybe I did a bad manipulation, but for me, the installation of plugins JoinPushPull and Tools on Surface doesn't work (signature obsolete).

                                    The plugin vetting process put in place with SU2017 calls for signatures. Just because a plugin / extension shows "outdated signature" or "unsigned" doesn't mean it won't work, it only controls what is to be loaded. If you're super paranoid and have set up SU2017 to only load signed plugins / extenstions then trying to load an unsigned / out of dated signature plugin / extenstion won't work. However if your plugin / extension loading setup is unrestricted then these will load.

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                                    • K Offline
                                      Kawet
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Juju,

                                      Thank you, i'm not ''super paranoid'', but i like to understand ... and its my first day on SU !

                                      Now i understand.
                                      ty

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                                      • fredo6F Offline
                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by

                                        @kawet said:

                                        Hi Fredo,

                                        I am a beginner in the use of Sketchup so maybe I did a bad manipulation, but for me, the installation of plugins JoinPushPull and Tools on Surface doesn't work (signature obsolete).
                                        Do you have an explanation?
                                        My version of SU is 17.1.173 and I'm on Mac.
                                        Thank you for your help.

                                        Kawet

                                        I will republish JPP with SU2017 certification.

                                        Fredo

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                                        • jujuJ Offline
                                          juju
                                          last edited by

                                          @kawet said:

                                          Hi Juju,

                                          Thank you, i'm not ''super paranoid'', but i like to understand ... and its my first day on SU !

                                          Now i understand.
                                          ty

                                          There is nothing wrong with asking questions to understand. Anyhows, welcome to SketchUp! I must warn you, it is addictive!

                                          As long as you get your plugins from reputable sources you should not have problems with rogue plugins and, as such, be able to leave the plugin/extension loading settings to unrestricted.

                                          Happy Sketch(Up)ing!

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                                          • shukritobiS Offline
                                            shukritobi
                                            last edited by

                                            Hey Fredo,

                                            great tool! I've been using this plugin since 2 years ago. However, I've encountered a bug when trying to use JointPushPull.

                                            I was trying to extrude this plane:

                                            1.JPG

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Date: 02-Feb-17 16:36:14
                                            An error occurred in Joint Push Pull
                                            Error in generation of the geometry

                                            undefined method `smooth?' for nil:NilClass

                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1107 -- block in geometry_coplanar_edges_overhang
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1105 -- each
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1105 -- each_with_index
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 1105 -- geometry_coplanar_edges_overhang
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 354 -- block in geometry_robot_erase_coplanar_edges
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 352 -- each
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 352 -- geometry_robot_erase_coplanar_edges
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 214 -- robot_call_action
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 177 -- geometry_robot_exec
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 160 -- geometry_robot
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 75 -- block in geometry_execute
                                            Lib6Operation.rb: 332 -- call
                                            Lib6Operation.rb: 332 -- step_geometry
                                            Lib6Operation.rb: 374 -- start_execution
                                            JointPushPullGeometry.rb: 75 -- geometry_execute
                                            JointPushPullTool.rb: 892 -- go_preview_or_geom
                                            JointPushPullTool.rb: 931 -- modify_execute
                                            JointPushPullTool.rb: 944 -- modify_offset
                                            JointPushPullTool.rb: 2081 -- action_from_VCB
                                            JointPushPullTool.rb: 2058 -- onUserText

                                            Here's the file: jpp error.skp

                                            I've encountered quite a number of errors, but today I decided want to learn more what's going on.

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