sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Need help on a panel door

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Dynamic Components
    sketchup
    16 Posts 4 Posters 1.7k Views 4 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • F Offline
      Futurepast
      last edited by

      I see where you are going with this... the angles have to be treated separate so they don't "distort" when changing the panel to another size that isn't perfectly square. But now, how would this export to Cutlist?

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • A Offline
        ArCAD-UK
        last edited by

        You may want to seriously consider abandoning DC's if you want to do take offs where there are mitres involved. DC's are best limited to a single component count.

        Have a look at the FredoScale plugin which may allow you resizing without distortion and quantity take offs.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • F Offline
          Futurepast
          last edited by

          I know that if I group the miter cuts and center pieces AFTER I pick a size, then cut list will give me the stick length. So If I import separate copies into my drawing and mod them individually, I'm thinking it's a "little" faster to go to cut list...am I wrong? But still having problems getting all the pieces to align properly.

          EDIT Well after messing with this all day, I have come to the conclusion that unless they can get this to go down one more tier (Grand parent to Grand child) this is just a "movement" or for "show and tell" tool and not good for cutlist import at all.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • P Offline
            pcmoor
            last edited by

            Hi again

            with regards to building the mitred moulding
            I hide the the share lines and delete the the internal surfaces
            Then change the axis so as make minimum need for formulas,

            the sizes of the mitres are trapped, the section of the length is also trapped, only movement is along x-axis

            the scale tool is incorporated for easy size change for other projects

            with regards to "cut-list" I did not know it was part of the criteria so I've downloaded it and will try to figure it out

            cheers


            hide shared outlines, delete shared faces


            make group with axis placed as shown, click into lenX,LenY,LenZ and place = before the value
this will stop the mitre from distorting


            middle, place axis along same line, make LenY,LenZ fixed


            right, same as per left


            with the groups placed together make them a component with axis placed as per left group, this then minimizes the need for complex positions, only need to consider changes in the X direction of the groups


            now consider the relationships with the groups for positions along the x-axis


            restricted scaling of the component (this is done for reuse for other projects


            add a relation between lenX of middle and full length of object


            pciture frame.skp

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • P Offline
              pcmoor
              last edited by

              had a quick look @ cutlist

              I note that my picture frame produces 4 lengths (middle) and 8 ends (4 left,4 right), the middles are short points to the mitre ends

              if I open a moulding and explode the 3 groups then I can get a single entity on the list

              (this maybe the foundation to a ruby script,,,"explode internal entities", the coders can make)

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • F Offline
                Futurepast
                last edited by

                you did a great job of explaining it!!!! Last night I did finish the thing, but not quite like you did.... mines sloppy in comparison but you can see how I bungled through it. I just go in and group the 2 miters and center pieces after I set the door size and then it exports to cut list fine,(it only goes done 2 layers)then I can explode the group to edit it if need be.


                Wanescot PanelDoor.skp

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • P Offline
                  pcmoor
                  last edited by

                  Cheers Mike,

                  it works, just need to hide the joins (double click the offending surface, right click, hide)
                  I am glad you didn't give up...
                  your model is completed..I'm still playing around with some ideas...

                  I added formulas to the mould I made which allows change in degrees, added options to pick scale or fixed length (thanks to "eselick".... "Scale AND keyed in values for component size")

                  Philip


                  stage 3 ...refinements


                  mould template.skp

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • F Offline
                    Futurepast
                    last edited by

                    I did as you suggested and hide those ends looks much better!
                    but did discover an error I have to fix when I move the door lol Post yours when done am interested in seeing finished formulas ☀

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • F Offline
                      Futurepast
                      last edited by

                      Ok got it fixed. I made the mistake of referencing the door Z value instead of just referencing the bottom style lol everytime I moved the door up the rails went to the moon! Still have improvements to make... but it has been interesting lol


                      Wanescot PanelDoor.skp

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        Question for you: How does your door show up in a cutlist?

                        Etaoin Shrdlu

                        %

                        (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                        G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                        M30

                        %

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • F Offline
                          Futurepast
                          last edited by

                          @dave r said:

                          Question for you: How does your door show up in a cutlist?

                          Sorry it took so long to answer have been in the shop a lot working. As to Cut list, it shows each piece of trim as three separate pieces. But, since the ends are all the same and only the length of the center changes, I manually edit the export file and just add in the length of 2 ends to the length of the center and delete the ends. This works because cutlist reads the end trim to the long point of the miter. I just made sure the naming is correct left center right or top center bottom so I can find them later.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Ah. I see. So does a panel show up as nine parts?

                            As long as it works for you. I guess if you have a lot of the same doors, that could be workable. My personal preference is to keep the parts as single entities and get accurate numbers out of the cut list without doing any math. I've never found resizing doors manually to be any trouble, anyway.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

                            %

                            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                            M30

                            %

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • F Offline
                              Futurepast
                              last edited by

                              @dave r said:

                              Ah. I see. So does a panel show up as nine parts?

                              As long as it works for you. I guess if you have a lot of the same doors, that could be workable. My personal preference is to keep the parts as single entities and get accurate numbers out of the cut list without doing any math. I've never found resizing doors manually to be any trouble, anyway.

                              No the panel just resizes

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
                                last edited by

                                Oh. Just a flat panel, then. Not raised?

                                Etaoin Shrdlu

                                %

                                (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                                G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                                M30

                                %

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • 1 / 1
                                • First post
                                  Last post
                                Buy SketchPlus
                                Buy SUbD
                                Buy WrapR
                                Buy eBook
                                Buy Modelur
                                Buy Vertex Tools
                                Buy SketchCuisine
                                Buy FormFonts

                                Advertisement