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    • A Offline
      ArCAD-UK
      last edited by

      You may want to seriously consider abandoning DC's if you want to do take offs where there are mitres involved. DC's are best limited to a single component count.

      Have a look at the FredoScale plugin which may allow you resizing without distortion and quantity take offs.

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        Futurepast
        last edited by

        I know that if I group the miter cuts and center pieces AFTER I pick a size, then cut list will give me the stick length. So If I import separate copies into my drawing and mod them individually, I'm thinking it's a "little" faster to go to cut list...am I wrong? But still having problems getting all the pieces to align properly.

        EDIT Well after messing with this all day, I have come to the conclusion that unless they can get this to go down one more tier (Grand parent to Grand child) this is just a "movement" or for "show and tell" tool and not good for cutlist import at all.

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        • P Offline
          pcmoor
          last edited by

          Hi again

          with regards to building the mitred moulding
          I hide the the share lines and delete the the internal surfaces
          Then change the axis so as make minimum need for formulas,

          the sizes of the mitres are trapped, the section of the length is also trapped, only movement is along x-axis

          the scale tool is incorporated for easy size change for other projects

          with regards to "cut-list" I did not know it was part of the criteria so I've downloaded it and will try to figure it out

          cheers


          hide shared outlines, delete shared faces


          make group with axis placed as shown, click into lenX,LenY,LenZ and place = before the value
this will stop the mitre from distorting


          middle, place axis along same line, make LenY,LenZ fixed


          right, same as per left


          with the groups placed together make them a component with axis placed as per left group, this then minimizes the need for complex positions, only need to consider changes in the X direction of the groups


          now consider the relationships with the groups for positions along the x-axis


          restricted scaling of the component (this is done for reuse for other projects


          add a relation between lenX of middle and full length of object


          pciture frame.skp

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          • P Offline
            pcmoor
            last edited by

            had a quick look @ cutlist

            I note that my picture frame produces 4 lengths (middle) and 8 ends (4 left,4 right), the middles are short points to the mitre ends

            if I open a moulding and explode the 3 groups then I can get a single entity on the list

            (this maybe the foundation to a ruby script,,,"explode internal entities", the coders can make)

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            • F Offline
              Futurepast
              last edited by

              you did a great job of explaining it!!!! Last night I did finish the thing, but not quite like you did.... mines sloppy in comparison but you can see how I bungled through it. I just go in and group the 2 miters and center pieces after I set the door size and then it exports to cut list fine,(it only goes done 2 layers)then I can explode the group to edit it if need be.


              Wanescot PanelDoor.skp

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              • P Offline
                pcmoor
                last edited by

                Cheers Mike,

                it works, just need to hide the joins (double click the offending surface, right click, hide)
                I am glad you didn't give up...
                your model is completed..I'm still playing around with some ideas...

                I added formulas to the mould I made which allows change in degrees, added options to pick scale or fixed length (thanks to "eselick".... "Scale AND keyed in values for component size")

                Philip


                stage 3 ...refinements


                mould template.skp

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                • F Offline
                  Futurepast
                  last edited by

                  I did as you suggested and hide those ends looks much better!
                  but did discover an error I have to fix when I move the door lol Post yours when done am interested in seeing finished formulas ☀

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                    Futurepast
                    last edited by

                    Ok got it fixed. I made the mistake of referencing the door Z value instead of just referencing the bottom style lol everytime I moved the door up the rails went to the moon! Still have improvements to make... but it has been interesting lol


                    Wanescot PanelDoor.skp

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      Question for you: How does your door show up in a cutlist?

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                        Futurepast
                        last edited by

                        @dave r said:

                        Question for you: How does your door show up in a cutlist?

                        Sorry it took so long to answer have been in the shop a lot working. As to Cut list, it shows each piece of trim as three separate pieces. But, since the ends are all the same and only the length of the center changes, I manually edit the export file and just add in the length of 2 ends to the length of the center and delete the ends. This works because cutlist reads the end trim to the long point of the miter. I just made sure the naming is correct left center right or top center bottom so I can find them later.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Ah. I see. So does a panel show up as nine parts?

                          As long as it works for you. I guess if you have a lot of the same doors, that could be workable. My personal preference is to keep the parts as single entities and get accurate numbers out of the cut list without doing any math. I've never found resizing doors manually to be any trouble, anyway.

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                            Futurepast
                            last edited by

                            @dave r said:

                            Ah. I see. So does a panel show up as nine parts?

                            As long as it works for you. I guess if you have a lot of the same doors, that could be workable. My personal preference is to keep the parts as single entities and get accurate numbers out of the cut list without doing any math. I've never found resizing doors manually to be any trouble, anyway.

                            No the panel just resizes

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Oh. Just a flat panel, then. Not raised?

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