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    • P Offline
      pcmoor
      last edited by

      Hi again

      with regards to building the mitred moulding
      I hide the the share lines and delete the the internal surfaces
      Then change the axis so as make minimum need for formulas,

      the sizes of the mitres are trapped, the section of the length is also trapped, only movement is along x-axis

      the scale tool is incorporated for easy size change for other projects

      with regards to "cut-list" I did not know it was part of the criteria so I've downloaded it and will try to figure it out

      cheers


      hide shared outlines, delete shared faces


      make group with axis placed as shown, click into lenX,LenY,LenZ and place = before the value
this will stop the mitre from distorting


      middle, place axis along same line, make LenY,LenZ fixed


      right, same as per left


      with the groups placed together make them a component with axis placed as per left group, this then minimizes the need for complex positions, only need to consider changes in the X direction of the groups


      now consider the relationships with the groups for positions along the x-axis


      restricted scaling of the component (this is done for reuse for other projects


      add a relation between lenX of middle and full length of object


      pciture frame.skp

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        pcmoor
        last edited by

        had a quick look @ cutlist

        I note that my picture frame produces 4 lengths (middle) and 8 ends (4 left,4 right), the middles are short points to the mitre ends

        if I open a moulding and explode the 3 groups then I can get a single entity on the list

        (this maybe the foundation to a ruby script,,,"explode internal entities", the coders can make)

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          Futurepast
          last edited by

          you did a great job of explaining it!!!! Last night I did finish the thing, but not quite like you did.... mines sloppy in comparison but you can see how I bungled through it. I just go in and group the 2 miters and center pieces after I set the door size and then it exports to cut list fine,(it only goes done 2 layers)then I can explode the group to edit it if need be.


          Wanescot PanelDoor.skp

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            pcmoor
            last edited by

            Cheers Mike,

            it works, just need to hide the joins (double click the offending surface, right click, hide)
            I am glad you didn't give up...
            your model is completed..I'm still playing around with some ideas...

            I added formulas to the mould I made which allows change in degrees, added options to pick scale or fixed length (thanks to "eselick".... "Scale AND keyed in values for component size")

            Philip


            stage 3 ...refinements


            mould template.skp

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              Futurepast
              last edited by

              I did as you suggested and hide those ends looks much better!
              but did discover an error I have to fix when I move the door lol Post yours when done am interested in seeing finished formulas ☀

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                Futurepast
                last edited by

                Ok got it fixed. I made the mistake of referencing the door Z value instead of just referencing the bottom style lol everytime I moved the door up the rails went to the moon! Still have improvements to make... but it has been interesting lol


                Wanescot PanelDoor.skp

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                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Question for you: How does your door show up in a cutlist?

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                    Futurepast
                    last edited by

                    @dave r said:

                    Question for you: How does your door show up in a cutlist?

                    Sorry it took so long to answer have been in the shop a lot working. As to Cut list, it shows each piece of trim as three separate pieces. But, since the ends are all the same and only the length of the center changes, I manually edit the export file and just add in the length of 2 ends to the length of the center and delete the ends. This works because cutlist reads the end trim to the long point of the miter. I just made sure the naming is correct left center right or top center bottom so I can find them later.

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                      Dave R
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                      Ah. I see. So does a panel show up as nine parts?

                      As long as it works for you. I guess if you have a lot of the same doors, that could be workable. My personal preference is to keep the parts as single entities and get accurate numbers out of the cut list without doing any math. I've never found resizing doors manually to be any trouble, anyway.

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                        Futurepast
                        last edited by

                        @dave r said:

                        Ah. I see. So does a panel show up as nine parts?

                        As long as it works for you. I guess if you have a lot of the same doors, that could be workable. My personal preference is to keep the parts as single entities and get accurate numbers out of the cut list without doing any math. I've never found resizing doors manually to be any trouble, anyway.

                        No the panel just resizes

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                          Dave R
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                          Oh. Just a flat panel, then. Not raised?

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