[Plugin] SketchUcation Tools
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I've installed SketchUcation Tools 2.0, apparently successfully, in SU Make 2013.
I try to use Plugins Manager, and immediately get the error message
SketchUp
NO Security Permission to Manage ANY Plugins Folder in the $LOAD_PATH.
FULL Read/Write Permissions are needed to Manage Plugins within Plugins Folders...OK
I tried to fix this by changing Advanced Sharing settings in the Plugins folder, setting permissions for Everyone to All, and restarting SU.
Also tried system restart after setting these sharing permissions.
Still get the same message.
Any further suggestions?
I'm running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, fully patched up to date, and the latest version of SU Make 2013.
John McC
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right click the sketchup icon and run as admin
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It works if I start Sketchup with Run as Administrator. And I hope it solves the problem that AutoInstall of another program from the Plugins Store didn't seem to work earlier, though it gave no error messages.
BUT...
I log on to the machine as an administrator already, and the Quick Launch bar icon for SU from which I usually launch it doesn't have the option to Run as Administrator.
So I have for the moment set the SU program properties to Run as Administrator by default, but I don't like doing that for programs supposedly written for Windows 7 or later.
There's no problem using Window/Preferences/Extensions/Install Extension when NOT running SU as Administrator, which needs rights to write to the Plugins folder, so why does the Tools 2.0 Plugin not get itself the same rights by default? Surely this Tools plugin shouldn't trip up over permissions like this? I don't expect that from programs written in the Windows 7 or later era.
Alternatively, would it not be better for SU to install its plugins in a folder that doesn't need special rights? In AppData for example, like other programs? I know you can have a script to load Plugins from other folders (and I have used that in the past), but would the Tools Plugin know about that?
John McC
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We do more than install plugins. We enable/disable. Uninstall. Create Sets.
This is outside the M.O. of SU so ye folders permissions need tweaking.
Also Windows over protective attitude prevent very simple activities to take place without permission.
Feel free to not use the tool if you are not comfortable. But most of the points you raise are OS or app related. Something we can't control.
TIG has extensively covered folder permissions elsewhere if you hunt around.
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@johnwmcc said:
I log on to the machine as an administrator already, and the Quick Launch bar icon for SU from which I usually launch it doesn't have the option to Run as Administrator.
It has, only 2 right clicks away:
- right click on icon
- right click on the programs name
- properties (?, not sure about the translation)
- compatibility (?)
- run as administrator checkbox (?)
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Getting this exact same message since updating. Tried altering SU file permissions as well with no success. Only applies to plugin manager, the rest works fine.
@johnwmcc said:
I've installed SketchUcation Tools 2.0, apparently successfully, in SU Make 2013.
I try to use Plugins Manager, and immediately get the error message
SketchUp
NO Security Permission to Manage ANY Plugins Folder in the $LOAD_PATH.
FULL Read/Write Permissions are needed to Manage Plugins within Plugins Folders...OK
I tried to fix this by changing Advanced Sharing settings in the Plugins folder, setting permissions for Everyone to All, and restarting SU.
Also tried system restart after setting these sharing permissions.
Still get the same message.
Any further suggestions?
I'm running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, fully patched up to date, and the latest version of SU Make 2013.
John McC
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Not sure about Win8 exactly but on all recent/earlier flavors of Windows these are the fix steps...
By default Windows sets limited permissions to all subfolders within the 'Program Files' folder tree - irrespective of your status as an admin etc.
This compromises manually adding, or later on, 'managing' Plugins in the main Plugins folder in all PC versions of SketchUp [typically v8/v2013, but hopefully some future SketchUp version will relocate the Plugins folder to a more 'user friendly' location
]You need to reset permissions etc.
First close SketchUp.
Do the next steps as an admin [if you are not one give yourself that power in the Users Control Panel]...
Find the main Plugins folder.
If your Plugins folder has a 'custom icon' please remove it - having one can subtly compromise that folder's permissions, even when they appear to report as being 'FULL' !
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Customize > Change Icon > Restore Default...Now fix its permissions...
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
Give FULL read/write permissions [top tick-box in listing] to every user and group listed in the dialog.
[Note that is not just 'Everyone' which might be one of the Group names]
Apply/OK to save changes.Next, find the file SketchUp.exe [which is in the folder that contains the Plugins folder]
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Compatibility
Tick the check-box near the bottom 'Always Run as Administrator'... [or similar wording]
Apply/OK to save changes.Open SketchUp and now try Managing some Plugins...
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Thanks Tig,
I stopped at the permissions edit stage and all is now fine. I realise my mistake was thinking selecting full permission for the top tab, (all applications packages),was going to do the trick when I needed to do that for all the listings as you suggested.
By the way; thanks for your great plugins that I'm using - coords tag, height from datum and triangulate points,etc. they're really usefull.
Cheers, Gary.
@tig said:
Not sure about Win8 exactly but on all recent/earlier flavors of Windows these are the fix steps...
By default Windows sets limited permissions to all subfolders within the 'Program Files' folder tree - irrespective of your status as an admin etc.
This compromises manually adding, or later on, 'managing' Plugins in the main Plugins folder in all PC versions of SketchUp [typically v8/v2013, but hopefully some future SketchUp version will relocate the Plugins folder to a more 'user friendly' location ]You need to reset permissions etc.
First close SketchUp.
Do the next steps as an admin [if you are not one give yourself that power in the Users Control Panel]...
Find the main Plugins folder.
If your Plugins folder has a 'custom icon' please remove it - having one can subtly compromise that folder's permissions, even when they appear to report as being 'FULL' !
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Customize > Change Icon > Restore Default...Now fix its permissions...
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
Give FULL read/write permissions [top tick-box in listing] to every user and group listed in the dialog.
[Note that is not just 'Everyone' which might be one of the Group names]
Apply/OK to save changes.Next, find the file SketchUp.exe [which is in the folder that contains the Plugins folder]
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Compatibility
Tick the check-box near the bottom 'Always Run as Administrator'... [or similar wording]
Apply/OK to save changes.Open SketchUp and now try Managing some Plugins...
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I've installed 2.0 and any edits I do to the list, particularly sets, are not accepted. If I make changes to the loaded/disabled plugins, then close the manager and re-open, the previous settings are re-applied.
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@ben ritter said:
I've installed 2.0 and any edits I do to the list, particularly sets, are not accepted. If I make changes to the loaded/disabled plugins, then close the manager and re-open, the previous settings are re-applied.
Please read the previous few posts about setting your Plugins folders security permission up properly so that you can manage your Plugins [much of this is PC oriented BUT MAC is similar - just set FULL permissions from from the 'More Info' dialog [ensuring the option is chosen to trickle the changes down to apply to its contents]]. It's easiest to set FULL read/write permission for all users listed... Also if you are on a PC setup SketchUp.exe to always run as admin etc... Without FULL permission you will not be able to make enduring changes to the state of your Plugins...You haven't told us your OS or SUp version in your user-profile [it's there for a reason...]
However, I guess it's MAC with probably v8 ?
On a MAC you probably need to use the toggle option to see the hidden Library folders like Plugins...
If you use 'More Info' on the HD Plugins folder icon to give yourself FULL read/write permissions, then you must choose to apply this also to all of the contained folders and subfolders etc... It's an option ?
I guess it's this... because if you could not add new files to the Plugins folder at all you would be warned ?
BUT if you have left its original contents as read-only then you can't manage them ! You can probably manage new additions because they'll take the folder's current properties
So reset the FULL permissions with the option to apply that to its contents as well...
On v2013 I think the MAC defaults to the user's Plugins folder, which already has FULL permissions, so there shouldn't be an issue with adding new files OR managing any of them - however if you are using the HD Plugins the permission issue applied just like v8.
On PCs, because of Windows protective nature of anything inside the Program Files tree, the Plugins folder always needs changing to FULL read/write, but by default these new permissions filter down and should automatically apply to the folder's contents too...
Hence my MAC+v8 guess ??
Please let us know what the issue is/was, or if you need further help... -
TIG,
Thanks. I'll look at my permissions.
Using Windows 7 Professional, SU 8.
Ben
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The little check box that appears when you select "My Plugins": Shouldn't it say "Check to show plugins that need updating"?
If it shows only "updated plugins", of what value is that? -
It is meant to mean, 'Check [my-plugins] for [available] updates'.
If you do check it, then it does indeed show any updates that are available for 'my-[your!]-plugins'
But I know what you mean... Refinements are being looked at anyway...
The way it displays 'my-plugins' will hopefully get even more helpful soon - perhaps showing every plugin you have ever downloaded [which might include files you have subsequently deleted or perhaps have not yet installed on this current PC], the plugins you currently have 'installed' on this current PC [but enabled and disabled ones, but excluding 'uninstalled' ones] i.e. omitting those you have subsequently deleted etc, and then which of those plugins have updates available for you... -
Text changed to "Check for updates". After cache erase you should see the change.
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After clicking auto install for some plugins, they do not appear under my plugins tab but do appear under my sketchucation store > My plugins. How do I get them to appear/work. Thanks.
windows 7, SU2013
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Not all plugins are under the Plugins menu. Some are under Edit, Tools, Draw, File, Window....
It really depends on what you installed.
Read the 'More Info' page for each tool...Also you need to have permissions to write to Plugins folder which is covered ad nauseam in this thread already.
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I cant seem to find the INSTALL EXTENSIONS button on the extensions tab in preferences. it just isn't there. I know I can manually install these but is there a follow guide for this?
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You need to upgrade SU version - at least the latest SU8 version - in order to have that button and the additional features like AutoInstall...
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It was introduced in SU 8 M2: http://sketchupdate.blogspot.de/2011/12/another-important-update-for-sketchup-8.html
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