[Plugin] SketchUcation Tools

[TIG]

I know, but it's a faff...

Anyway I have a solution in vertical-align:top; for the two td's holding the desc and the buttons... either as a new/modified class class or in the html <td style=... itself...

[TIG]

Whatever you did to it, now it works OK for me in both IE10 AND IE8 mode...
Real IE8 feedback from Fredo et al should clinch the fix...

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[Oxer]

Hi, I installed the last version and it appears this error window when I run SU 2013 on Mac OSX 10.8.5

[TIG]

@Oxer

Did you restart SketchUp after the update [as instructed] ?
DO you have FULL read/write permissions to your main Plugins folder ?

If it still gives errors...
Close SketchUp.
Then remove all of the installed files.
That is - the !SketchUcation_loader.rb file and the ../Plugins subfolder of files etc named SketchUcation.
Now reinstall the file either from the latest RBZ downloaded from the SCF PluginStore, using Preferences > Extensions > Install... button, OR use the SketchUcation Plugin Store dialog in SketchUp itself to AutoInstall it...
Restart SketchUp and report back

[Oxer]

Hi TIG,
I reinstalled the plugin and Ok now, the problem was the SCF-ES.strings file, I had not modified the file with the new strings.
But in the new SCF-EN-US.strings file aren't included these:
"Plugin data is not available"
"Highlight an Item to See Its Details..."

This is the new SCF-ES.strings v2.0 file
Spanish Language-SketchUcation Tools 2.0

[cotty]

Win7-64 with IE9: fine!

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[TIG]

@oxer said:

Hi TIG,
I reinstalled the plugin and Ok now, the problem was the SCF-ES.strings file, I had not modified the file with the new strings.
But in the new SCF-EN-US.strings file aren't included these:
"Plugin data is not available"
"Highlight an Item to See Its Details..."
This is the new SCF-ES.strings v2.0 file
[attachment=0:1uttvlrg]<!-- ia0 -->SCF-ES.strings.zip<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1uttvlrg]
So, if you have a custom .strings file, you need to review it and update it if there are extra functions added... like in this case...
The two phrases you mention are NOT translated because they are related to the SCF database entries responses, which are all in EN only

[Oxer]

Thanks for the reply TIG!!

[JQL]

Hi all,

What an excelent plugin this is! Getting better and better each release. I got a feature sugestion that you might consider:

• What about having a button for release notes for the plugins? I know we can click on more info but, for plugins we already are familiar with, only the release note/changelog would be necessary.

Thanks for your excelent work and best regards,

JQL

[Rich O Brien]

@JQL

We are going to go one better soon

A Eureka moment happened today....

[JQL]

You were fast or what Rich? I suppose there are no original ideas...

[Rich O Brien]

Any idea is good. You just added to the to-do pile

[johnwmcc]

I've installed SketchUcation Tools 2.0, apparently successfully, in SU Make 2013.

I try to use Plugins Manager, and immediately get the error message

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SketchUp

NO Security Permission to Manage ANY Plugins Folder in the $LOAD_PATH.
FULL Read/Write Permissions are needed to Manage Plugins within Plugins Folders...

OK

I tried to fix this by changing Advanced Sharing settings in the Plugins folder, setting permissions for Everyone to All, and restarting SU.

Also tried system restart after setting these sharing permissions.

Still get the same message.

Any further suggestions?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, fully patched up to date, and the latest version of SU Make 2013.

John McC

[Rich O Brien]

right click the sketchup icon and run as admin

[johnwmcc]

It works if I start Sketchup with Run as Administrator. And I hope it solves the problem that AutoInstall of another program from the Plugins Store didn't seem to work earlier, though it gave no error messages.

BUT...

I log on to the machine as an administrator already, and the Quick Launch bar icon for SU from which I usually launch it doesn't have the option to Run as Administrator.

So I have for the moment set the SU program properties to Run as Administrator by default, but I don't like doing that for programs supposedly written for Windows 7 or later.

There's no problem using Window/Preferences/Extensions/Install Extension when NOT running SU as Administrator, which needs rights to write to the Plugins folder, so why does the Tools 2.0 Plugin not get itself the same rights by default? Surely this Tools plugin shouldn't trip up over permissions like this? I don't expect that from programs written in the Windows 7 or later era.

Alternatively, would it not be better for SU to install its plugins in a folder that doesn't need special rights? In AppData for example, like other programs? I know you can have a script to load Plugins from other folders (and I have used that in the past), but would the Tools Plugin know about that?

John McC

[Rich O Brien]

We do more than install plugins. We enable/disable. Uninstall. Create Sets.

This is outside the M.O. of SU so ye folders permissions need tweaking.

Also Windows over protective attitude prevent very simple activities to take place without permission.

Feel free to not use the tool if you are not comfortable. But most of the points you raise are OS or app related. Something we can't control.

TIG has extensively covered folder permissions elsewhere if you hunt around.

[cotty]

@johnwmcc said:

I log on to the machine as an administrator already, and the Quick Launch bar icon for SU from which I usually launch it doesn't have the option to Run as Administrator.

It has, only 2 right clicks away:

• right click on icon
• right click on the programs name
• properties (?, not sure about the translation)
• compatibility (?)
• run as administrator checkbox (?)

[Calstock]

Getting this exact same message since updating. Tried altering SU file permissions as well with no success. Only applies to plugin manager, the rest works fine.

@johnwmcc said:

I've installed SketchUcation Tools 2.0, apparently successfully, in SU Make 2013.

I try to use Plugins Manager, and immediately get the error message

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SketchUp

NO Security Permission to Manage ANY Plugins Folder in the $LOAD_PATH.
FULL Read/Write Permissions are needed to Manage Plugins within Plugins Folders...

OK

I tried to fix this by changing Advanced Sharing settings in the Plugins folder, setting permissions for Everyone to All, and restarting SU.

Also tried system restart after setting these sharing permissions.

Still get the same message.

Any further suggestions?

I'm running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, fully patched up to date, and the latest version of SU Make 2013.

John McC

[TIG]

Not sure about Win8 exactly but on all recent/earlier flavors of Windows these are the fix steps...

By default Windows sets limited permissions to all subfolders within the 'Program Files' folder tree - irrespective of your status as an admin etc.
This compromises manually adding, or later on, 'managing' Plugins in the main Plugins folder in all PC versions of SketchUp [typically v8/v2013, but hopefully some future SketchUp version will relocate the Plugins folder to a more 'user friendly' location ]

You need to reset permissions etc.

First close SketchUp.

Do the next steps as an admin [if you are not one give yourself that power in the Users Control Panel]...

Find the main Plugins folder.

If your Plugins folder has a 'custom icon' please remove it - having one can subtly compromise that folder's permissions, even when they appear to report as being 'FULL' !
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Customize > Change Icon > Restore Default...

Now fix its permissions...
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
Give FULL read/write permissions [top tick-box in listing] to every user and group listed in the dialog.
[Note that is not just 'Everyone' which might be one of the Group names]
Apply/OK to save changes.

Next, find the file SketchUp.exe [which is in the folder that contains the Plugins folder]
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Compatibility
Tick the check-box near the bottom 'Always Run as Administrator'... [or similar wording]
Apply/OK to save changes.

Open SketchUp and now try Managing some Plugins...

[Calstock]

Thanks Tig,

I stopped at the permissions edit stage and all is now fine. I realise my mistake was thinking selecting full permission for the top tab, (all applications packages),was going to do the trick when I needed to do that for all the listings as you suggested.

By the way; thanks for your great plugins that I'm using - coords tag, height from datum and triangulate points,etc. they're really usefull.

Cheers, Gary.

@tig said:

Not sure about Win8 exactly but on all recent/earlier flavors of Windows these are the fix steps...

By default Windows sets limited permissions to all subfolders within the 'Program Files' folder tree - irrespective of your status as an admin etc.
This compromises manually adding, or later on, 'managing' Plugins in the main Plugins folder in all PC versions of SketchUp [typically v8/v2013, but hopefully some future SketchUp version will relocate the Plugins folder to a more 'user friendly' location ]

You need to reset permissions etc.

First close SketchUp.

Do the next steps as an admin [if you are not one give yourself that power in the Users Control Panel]...

Find the main Plugins folder.

If your Plugins folder has a 'custom icon' please remove it - having one can subtly compromise that folder's permissions, even when they appear to report as being 'FULL' !
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Customize > Change Icon > Restore Default...

Now fix its permissions...
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
Give FULL read/write permissions [top tick-box in listing] to every user and group listed in the dialog.
[Note that is not just 'Everyone' which might be one of the Group names]
Apply/OK to save changes.

Next, find the file SketchUp.exe [which is in the folder that contains the Plugins folder]
Select its icon > Right-click > Context-menu > Properties > Compatibility
Tick the check-box near the bottom 'Always Run as Administrator'... [or similar wording]
Apply/OK to save changes.

Open SketchUp and now try Managing some Plugins...