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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      How about components in Layout. What if you could type a page number, make it a component, place a bunch of them and the change one to change all. How nice would that be?

      Basically that's scrapbooks. except when you make changes the don't populate with it.

      Otherwise I couldn't find anything else in your list that I could point you towards a fix or that you're wrong about. lots of good points I agree with.

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      • O Offline
        otb designworks
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        On my Mac, there are lots of things you can edit on dimension lines but the one thing I can't seem to change, since forever, is how much of the leader line sticks past the dimension line.

        Change the stroke and it gets lighter, but not shorter.

        Double click the line and you can change the end points, but not the extension length.

        You can change the start and stop arrow sizes, but this does not change the extension either.

        Am I missing something here?


        Screen Shot 2013-05-31 at , May 31, 4.41.14 PM.png

        Cheers, Chuck

        OTB Designworks is on Youtube

        6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by

          double click on the dimension.
          select the extension line.
          change the end point style to a lower number.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • KrisidiousK Offline
            Krisidious
            last edited by

            here is some visual.

            dim1.JPG

            dim2.JPG

            dim3.JPG

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            • O Offline
              otb designworks
              last edited by

              OMG! You are the man, thanks.

              That is flipping awesome...Been using Layout since the inception and that has annoyed me forever. Never realized you can select the leader line as a separate entity after double clicking.

              Next beer is on me...

              Cheers, Chuck

              OTB Designworks is on Youtube

              6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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              • KrisidiousK Offline
                Krisidious
                last edited by

                They hid this whole section of dim editing... it's like they think I read the book. It should be in that menu along with the other dim tools.

                By: Kristoff Rand
                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Chuck, you might do what I did and set up your template so those extension lines aren't too long. Then you won't have to adjust them again.

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                  • O Offline
                    otb designworks
                    last edited by

                    as we speak, my friend, as we speak...

                    thanks

                    Cheers, Chuck

                    OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                    6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                    • O Offline
                      otb designworks
                      last edited by

                      One more thing I noticed:

                      If you set the keyboard shortcut for ~other/pick style (the eye dropper, I assume) and click on an entity, you don't get the paint bucket to apply the style elsewhere. It just reverts back to the tool you were using prior to hitting the keyboard shortcut.

                      So, If I set ~other/pick style as X and then hit X, I get the eye dropper, so that makes sense. Click on anything and it is as if nothing happened. The eyedropper disappears and the original tool reverts and with no way of applying the style.

                      Is this just a Mac thing?

                      Cheers, Chuck

                      OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                      6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        If you have a tool selected and hit the sample keyboard shortcut (I use the default S for that) the tool switches to the eye dropper. The idea is that you'll sample the thing whose style you want to copy and it'll be applied to the tool. So if you have the Dimension tool, you hit the keyboard short cut, click on a dimension or text or whatever that matches what you want in the dimensions and then go ahead and place the dimensions. It shouldn't switch to the paint bucket. This has been this way for as long as I can remember and is not new to LO2013.

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                        • O Offline
                          otb designworks
                          last edited by

                          But, if you choose the eyedropper from the tool bar, then first it samples and then turns to the paint bucket to apply.

                          Which shortcut should I set to to access this behavior?

                          Cheers, Chuck

                          OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                          6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            You're right. Selecting the eye dropper allows you to sample an entity and apply it's style, font, etc. to other existing entities. How about using Tools/Style which on my Mac has B set as the default shortcut.

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                            • sfto1S Offline
                              sfto1
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              Another issue that drives me crazy is that you can't shorten the extension lines that run past the slash, arrow, etc. They are, in my opinion, too long and require dimensions to be spaced out too much to avoid overlapping.

                              I agree!

                              Krisidious,

                              Thanks for the tut on changing that extension. Seriously, how did you find that out?

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                              • KrisidiousK Offline
                                Krisidious
                                last edited by

                                I was griping about it and Gaieus showed me the light. He gets all credit.

                                By: Kristoff Rand
                                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  That particular thing has been that way since dimensions were first introduced. It might help to understand that a dimension is a sort of group with some different lines and a text box.

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                                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                                    Krisidious
                                    last edited by

                                    except constraints don't work inside of it...

                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      As I said, "sort of a group."

                                      My point is that just like a group, all of the elements can be edited.

                                      If I'd known this was such an unknown thing, I guess I'd have made a post about it a long time ago.

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                                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                                        Krisidious
                                        last edited by

                                        I doubt many people using Layout know it. Well worth a tut or post.

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by

                                          @krisidious said:

                                          I doubt many people using Layout know it. Well worth a tut or post.

                                          Well noted! ☀

                                          Gai...

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                                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                                            Krisidious
                                            last edited by

                                            can anyone else confirm that copy geometry from sketchup and paste into layout does not work now?

                                            By: Kristoff Rand
                                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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