Layout 2013 Issues
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@unknownuser said:
Another issue that drives me crazy is that you can't shorten the extension lines that run past the slash, arrow, etc. They are, in my opinion, too long and require dimensions to be spaced out too much to avoid overlapping.
You can edit extension lines... I thought as you did forever. was pissed when I found out and it's a convoluted way to edit standards but it works.
here's Gaieus with more.
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@unknownuser said:
How about components in Layout. What if you could type a page number, make it a component, place a bunch of them and the change one to change all. How nice would that be?
Basically that's scrapbooks. except when you make changes the don't populate with it.
Otherwise I couldn't find anything else in your list that I could point you towards a fix or that you're wrong about. lots of good points I agree with.
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On my Mac, there are lots of things you can edit on dimension lines but the one thing I can't seem to change, since forever, is how much of the leader line sticks past the dimension line.
Change the stroke and it gets lighter, but not shorter.
Double click the line and you can change the end points, but not the extension length.
You can change the start and stop arrow sizes, but this does not change the extension either.
Am I missing something here?
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double click on the dimension.
select the extension line.
change the end point style to a lower number. -
here is some visual.
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OMG! You are the man, thanks.
That is flipping awesome...Been using Layout since the inception and that has annoyed me forever. Never realized you can select the leader line as a separate entity after double clicking.
Next beer is on me...
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They hid this whole section of dim editing... it's like they think I read the book. It should be in that menu along with the other dim tools.
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Chuck, you might do what I did and set up your template so those extension lines aren't too long. Then you won't have to adjust them again.
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as we speak, my friend, as we speak...
thanks
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One more thing I noticed:
If you set the keyboard shortcut for ~other/pick style (the eye dropper, I assume) and click on an entity, you don't get the paint bucket to apply the style elsewhere. It just reverts back to the tool you were using prior to hitting the keyboard shortcut.
So, If I set ~other/pick style as X and then hit X, I get the eye dropper, so that makes sense. Click on anything and it is as if nothing happened. The eyedropper disappears and the original tool reverts and with no way of applying the style.
Is this just a Mac thing?
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If you have a tool selected and hit the sample keyboard shortcut (I use the default S for that) the tool switches to the eye dropper. The idea is that you'll sample the thing whose style you want to copy and it'll be applied to the tool. So if you have the Dimension tool, you hit the keyboard short cut, click on a dimension or text or whatever that matches what you want in the dimensions and then go ahead and place the dimensions. It shouldn't switch to the paint bucket. This has been this way for as long as I can remember and is not new to LO2013.
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But, if you choose the eyedropper from the tool bar, then first it samples and then turns to the paint bucket to apply.
Which shortcut should I set to to access this behavior?
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You're right. Selecting the eye dropper allows you to sample an entity and apply it's style, font, etc. to other existing entities. How about using Tools/Style which on my Mac has B set as the default shortcut.
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@unknownuser said:
Another issue that drives me crazy is that you can't shorten the extension lines that run past the slash, arrow, etc. They are, in my opinion, too long and require dimensions to be spaced out too much to avoid overlapping.
I agree!
Krisidious,
Thanks for the tut on changing that extension. Seriously, how did you find that out?
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I was griping about it and Gaieus showed me the light. He gets all credit.
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That particular thing has been that way since dimensions were first introduced. It might help to understand that a dimension is a sort of group with some different lines and a text box.
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except constraints don't work inside of it...
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As I said, "sort of a group."
My point is that just like a group, all of the elements can be edited.
If I'd known this was such an unknown thing, I guess I'd have made a post about it a long time ago.
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I doubt many people using Layout know it. Well worth a tut or post.
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