SketchUp 2013 Gripes & Bitchin' ONLY ;)
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@frederik said:
2.) Trimble have decided only to focus on their own community and abandon all third party SketchUp communities...
(but it's going to be tough to ignore a community like SCF
...)I would say that this would be the primary culprit. They cannot control or spin very successfully here because they are on equal footing with the users... not a position that works to their advantage.
But even so, I think talk from their side is pointless anyway -- they need to show progress, not talk about it.
They've got enough bug reports and wish lists backlogged to keep them busy for the next several years -- so there is no need for us to go through another pointless "voting" debacle either. Which was just a thinly veiled attempt at placating the user base after the v8 release was such a dud... I never imagined v9 would be even worse, I sincerely thought that was impossible.
I've got the new tagline:
SketchUp. Setting new standards for mediocrity in update releases with each version!Best,
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They are probably busy answering the 30million users on their forums to visit here...
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/sketchup/sketchup/MNf3j74YXss
...or maybe not?
Maybe their Sages are ran ragged offering great customer support....
http://productforums.google.com/d/msg/sketchup/N5B0_3Xb77E/zHGwd7GB99MJ
or maybe not?
All this conjecture on what they are and aren't doing is pointless.
We know what we are at here and for those bitchin' and moanin' about SU2013....let it all out all because there another 51 weeks of it.
But for those tuned in and listening and watching what is happening around here. Our online store for Plugins got a lick of paint.....and......
Later today devs will be uploading direct to the store themselves. How f@#king cool is that?
Whether you're on v8 or v9 you'll be getting updated plugins as they happen.....
Has that cheered anyone up?
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I better add a bitch and moan otherwise Dan will kick my ass.
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@rich o brien said:
I better add a bitch and moan otherwise Dan will kick my ass.
As close to an ass-kickin-emoticon as I can find.
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Another one of my favorite bitchins...
I am sick and tired of elitest apple snobs (and some SU Dev team members,) telling us to buy a Mac whenever we have issues with our PCs !
IMHO, I see more plugin issues with Mac SketchUp than PC SketchUp.
So all ya platform snobs can just shove that Mac of yours right up .... uh, some dark orifice.
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@dan rathbun said:
I am sick and tired of elitest apple snobs (and some SU Dev team members,) telling us to buy a Mac whenever we have issues with our PCs !
IMHO, I see more plugin issues with Mac SketchUp than PC SketchUp.
buy a mac.. then you can figure out why we tend to have more issues with our plugins.
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Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges
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@jason_maranto said:
Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges
Best,
Jason.Why burn a bridge if you can blow it to smithereens?
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@jason_maranto said:
Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges
Best,
Jason.nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer
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@unknownuser said:
nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer
No lie, I just laughed out loud for at least 30 seconds... that may be the funniest thing I've seen in a long while.
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@unknownuser said:
@jason_maranto said:
Wow Dan, I thought I was throwing out some bombs -- but you just set some demolition charges
Best,
Jason.nah.. it's cool.. it's always a bit of fun trolling people that can't afford a real computer
yeah, not to mention i have essentially 2 machines if i need, and can run both at the same time.
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er I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI. As I said before SU makes me want to get a PC.
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Yeah! The other advantage of macs is that they provide excellent training for becoming an upgrade whore...complete with a handy in-house istore where you can purchase all kinds of shiny new toys.
Mac fan-boys ought to feel right at home with the new SU.
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@pbacot said:
er I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI. As I said before SU makes me want to get a PC.
grasshopper makes me want to get a PC.. it's not working in mac rhino yet.
for whatever reason, it's such a daunting task for me to get bootcamp + windows + rhino hooked up on my computers.. on a few occasions, i've considered hiring an IT guy to get everything up and running for me just so i can use grasshopper..but for now, i'm just rolling with the typical adhd plan of "procrastinate long enough and you'll get what you want"
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@pbacot said:
...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...
I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC...
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@frederik said:
@pbacot said:
...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...
I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC...
i don't think they have anyone onboard that actually uses the app in the way it's supposedly designed to be used.. because if they did, they'd definitely be ironing out all the pesky little UI pitfalls that become apparent when working in a production environment.
(but hey, chris f. has joined the team and i know he used sketchup in a working environment.. hopefully he'll be able to have some say in this stuff)
(and yes, this is a back-handed stab.. the suTeam probably does have a lot of people that know the app).. i don't really know so i'm just making stuff up now
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@unknownuser said:
@frederik said:
@pbacot said:
...I think the Mac HAS been all but ignored by SU if you look at the UI...
I'm getting more and more confused, cause if you look at "darling's" profile, you'll notice that the OS is set to... drum roll ... MAC...
i don't think they have anyone onboard that actually uses the app in the way it's supposedly designed to be used.. because if they did, they'd definitely be ironing out all the pesky little UI pitfalls that become apparent when working in a production environment.
(but hey, chris f. has joined the team and i know he used sketchup in a working environment.. hopefully he'll be able to have some say in this stuff)
**(and yes, this is a back-handed stab.. the suTeam probably does have a lot of people that know the app).. i don't really know so i'm just making stuff up now
**yeah, hopefully trimble will keep the mac version going, and maybe even make it look and work like most other OSX apps.
starting to peak at rhino and formz (used it along time ago in grad school... on a powerbook 1400cs! - man has it changed!)
i do need layout solution though, might have to download some trials and play around.
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Ohh... not again platform wars.
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@bmike said:
starting to peak at rhino and formz (used it along time ago in grad school... on a powerbook 1400cs! - man has it changed!)
i do need layout solution though, might have to download some trials and play around.
Just starting w/ Rhino. What can SU Layout do that Rhino Layout can't? (I'm a real newbie at Rhino - haven't even set up a title block yet so my question is sincere.)
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@arail1 said:
Just starting w/ Rhino. What can SU Layout do that Rhino Layout can't? (I'm a real newbie at Rhino - haven't even set up a title block yet so my question is sincere.)
fwiw, i'm the wrong person to ask.. i build all the stuff i design so i don't generally have a need for 2D drawings with details etc.. i'm from the mindset of 'draw it in 3D to begin with.. how much more detailed can you get ?
"i used to use layout to try to communicate with engineers but it was always so boring to me instead of the 'fun' i get from 3D modeling.. and i like trying to keep things fun and interesting-- otherwise, i start to feel like i'm working
just this morning, i sent some .3dm files to a new (to me) engineering firm and told them i'm only going to be distributing 3D files and if they need to translate to 2D, go ahead and do it..
(but they seem to be pretty cool with the idea of "look.. let me do my thing and you do your thing and we'll get along great")anyway- i guess that's going off topic but i don't have much of a clue regarding layout vs rhino.. i do know that in rhino, it would be as if layout&sketchup were one app instead of two.. that alone gets a
from me.
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