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    • BoxB Offline
      Box
      last edited by

      I have never used a Mac but it suggests to me that your operating system is hiding folders from you to protect you from yourself.

      Edit; a quick google for hidden folders mac reveals many links on how to view them.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        You need to enable MAC's viewing of hidden folders/files...
        There are many posts on this on the www ...
        http://appducate.com/2013/01/how-to-show-hidden-files-folders-on-your-mac/

        TIG

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          fcborik
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          I had some trouble figuring out how to get the plug-ins all set up. Some of my favorites were in the new Plug-In warehouse, but others, especially those from Fredo, were only available in the SketchUcation Plug In Store. Luckily, I figured how to get THAT int SU 2013! However when I tried to load some of Fredo's plugins, I started getting some error messages. The first was a missing Fredo6lib message that told me I forgot to load the library (duh!). But then I got a very strange error message that said "the file DEFPARAM_Dir could not be found. Manually create this file and respect the case." I actually was able to exercise my limited knowledge of computers and successfully created the file and, volia! Everything is now cool. But I was wondering why this was a problem in SU 2013 and not in SU 8? There doesn't seem to be any file called DEFPARAM_Dir in my SU 8 plug-in folder. Maybe quantum weirdness?

          Anyway, for those of you who are getting frustrated with trying to load Fredo's plugins, manually creating a file called DEFPARAM_Dir in your Sketchup/Plugins folder seems to solve the problem.

          Hope this helps!

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            The 'DEFRAM' error-message is because you still have limited access rights to the Plugins folder for some users...
            To fix it...
            In Windows...
            [You need Admin-Rights]
            Find the Plugins folder in Windows Explorer.
            Select it and right-click context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
            Ensure that everyone listed has 'FULL' permissions.
            It the CREATOR/OWNER can't be changed try changing yourself to the owner and erase that other entry...
            You don NOT want to 'inherit' properties from the containing folder.

            On a restart SketchUp should now have unfettered rights to the Plugins folder and be able to write the temporary files that Fredo's tools sometimes need...
            I know Fredo is looking at an easier fix for writing his temp files, BUT in the meanwhile it is an excellent idea to have full permissions to the Plugins folder, as there are several tools that might want to do this...
            It will also allow pain free 'Plugins Management'...

            TIG

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              fcborik
              last edited by

              OK, thanks! There's been a lot of talk about setting the permissions correctly, and I thought that I had the correct permissions to begin with. But, alas, I did not. Hopefully everything is now correct.

              Thanks again!!

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                davymac
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                Hey everyone, maiden post here. I have been using the Sketchup free version since about 2009 and I'm finally looking to make the jump to pro for SU 2013. I am a little confused on what this $95 upgrade, maintenance, and support fee is. Can anyone clear this up for me, does this mean if I choose not to pay the $95, I won't be able to upgrade sketchup if they come out with a small patch between the 2013 and 2014 release?

                Any help would be much appreciated, and sorry if this has been asked elsewhere!

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                  d12dozr
                  last edited by

                  @davymac said:

                  ...does this mean if I choose not to pay the $95, I won't be able to upgrade sketchup if they come out with a small patch between the 2013 and 2014 release?

                  When you buy Pro, you're covered for a year of updates. The $95 is an upgrade fee only for people that already have Pro.

                  So you don't need (in fact, probably cannot even) pay the $95 fee if you're just buying Pro for the first time.

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                    davymac
                    last edited by

                    @d12dozr said:

                    @davymac said:

                    ...does this mean if I choose not to pay the $95, I won't be able to upgrade sketchup if they come out with a small patch between the 2013 and 2014 release?

                    When you buy Pro, you're covered for a year of updates. The $95 is an upgrade fee only for people that already have Pro.

                    So you don't need (in fact, probably cannot even) pay the $95 fee if you're just buying Pro for the first time.

                    Awesome! Thanks for clearing that up for me!

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                      d12dozr
                      last edited by

                      @wyatt said:

                      @d12dozr said:

                      So you don't need (in fact, probably cannot even) pay the $95 fee if you're just buying Pro for the first time.

                      I don't think this is right. If you check the FAQs it states that the maintenance fee cannot be separated from the software purchase. The $95 is part of the total cost of the program for a new Pro purchaser. That's why the cost is now $500-something and not $400-something like it was for Pro 8. If you check the fine print when purchasing a new Pro license, I recall seeing it explained there. For that $95 a new Pro user will get updates/upgrades for a year, just like a person renewing their license.

                      Right, a new buyer can't pay the $95 as an upgrade because its already included. I could have worded that better I suppose.

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                        wyatt
                        last edited by

                        @d12dozr said:

                        So you don't need (in fact, probably cannot even) pay the $95 fee if you're just buying Pro for the first time.

                        I don't think this is right. If you check the FAQs it states that the maintenance fee cannot be separated from the software purchase. The $95 is part of the total cost of the program for a new Pro purchaser. That's why the cost is now $590 and not $495 like it was for Pro 8. If you check the fine print when purchasing a new Pro license, I recall seeing it explained there. For that extra $95, a new Pro user will get updates/upgrades for a year, just like a person renewing their license.

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                        • charly2008C Offline
                          charly2008
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                          Hi,

                          because I am a lazy person, I have copied my plugins folder from "Sketchup 8" to "2013", against all advice. So far everything works fine, I've tried a lot of plugins and have so far found none yet that does not work.

                          Charly

                          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @charly2008 said:

                            because I am a lazy person, I have copied my plugins folder from "Sketchup 8" to "2013", against all advice.

                            I did the same and had no issues. But I keep my plugins folder very trimmed down anyway.

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                            • jo-keJ Offline
                              jo-ke
                              last edited by

                              I have this error while using SU2013


                              error1.jpg

                              http://www.zz7.de

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                              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                Chris Fullmer
                                last edited by

                                Looks like you need to make sure that you have write access to the folder and all files wherever that SketchUp.lf files is stored. I think that is license file, that points to your server license file perhaps? I forget how server licensing works.

                                When you run SU, make sure you run it as admin. Right click on the SU icon and choose Run As Administrator. See if that helps, and let me know what you get.

                                Chris

                                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                All my Plugins I've written

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                                • FrederikF Offline
                                  Frederik
                                  last edited by

                                  @jo-ke said:

                                  I have this error while using SU2013

                                  @chris fullmer said:

                                  Looks like you need to make sure that you have write access to the folder and all files wherever that SketchUp.

                                  I have the same error message popping up every 3-5 minutes, when trying to use SU2013...
                                  It's worth mentioning that I do have Admin rights - incl. write access - to all files and folders...!
                                  Actually I had the same issue with SU8 Pro, which I reported to the SU Support...
                                  Jody replied with the following message:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Hi Kim Frederik,

                                  Thank you for your note. I understand you sometimes get an error message that SketchUp is unable to update the evaluation time. Note that this message should only occur with the Pro trial of SketchUp as it occurs when the trial time decrements. The reason the error occurs is because the software was never opened by an administrator and the user doesn't have the proper permissions to be able to edit system files or registry entries. You should be able to get past this error by opening SketchUp as an Administrator at least once allowing the necessary files to be created. After opening in this manner then non-Admins can use the software without further intervention. Once the license is successfully applied by the administrator then the error should go away.

                                  Thanks for taking the time to write.

                                  Regards,
                                  Jody
                                  The SketchUp Team

                                  I don't know if this is a Win Vista issue...? Perhaps Jo-ke can inform if he's also on Win Vista...?

                                  I have ordered the upgrade for SU2013 but haven't received my new license number - yet - but I assume that the error message will disappear once I enter the new license number exactly as it did when I entered the license number for SU 8 Pro... 😄

                                  Cheers
                                  Kim Frederik

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                                  • jo-keJ Offline
                                    jo-ke
                                    last edited by

                                    I have win7 and su2013 is still in evaluation mode.

                                    I didn't recieved my number yet

                                    I installed su2013 on a second machine (also win7) but there is no problem

                                    On both machines i am the admin

                                    http://www.zz7.de

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                                    • jo-keJ Offline
                                      jo-ke
                                      last edited by

                                      Ahhh, i ran it as admin and the problem disappeared.

                                      Didn't know that this username wasn't set as admin. I have to change that

                                      Is it possible to change the language after installation?

                                      http://www.zz7.de

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                                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                        Chris Fullmer
                                        last edited by

                                        Your username might well be set as admin, but you still have to force software to run in admin mode, otherwise windows will run the software in non-admin mode, just to help protect you from the evil things the software might do, like update the license.

                                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                        All my Plugins I've written

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Being 'an admin' is no guarantee that you can write to the Plugins folder or have other abilities you might hope for.
                                          By default Windows limits security-permissions to ALL users [including 'admins'], if a folder is in the 'Program Files' tree.
                                          The permissions should be adjusted to be FULL for all users, in its Properties>Security>Edit.
                                          You should execute installers 'as admin' to ensure a successful outcome.
                                          You should also set the SketchUp.exe file to 'run as admin' in its Properties>Compatibility settings check-box...
                                          That way you should not get issues with these kinds of file/folder making/writing etc...

                                          TIG

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                                          • jo-keJ Offline
                                            jo-ke
                                            last edited by

                                            Thank you TIG,
                                            I will try to fix that tonight.

                                            http://www.zz7.de

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