SketchUp 2013 ;)
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@d12dozr said:
I simply don't get the hostility in this thread.
The big features in this release are Layout improvements and the Extension Warehouse. Do you negative nancys really not see what a BIG FREAKING DEAL the Extensions warehouse is?? And just because you don't personally use Layout doesn't mean countless other folks don't appreciate the update.
When was the last time you got really excited about something Sketchup related? Likely is was some kind of plugin - Thea, Maxwell, Fredo's TopoShaper, Sketchucation's Plugin Store. The Extensions Warehouse (EW) is just going to make these kind of things more visible and more frequent. Ever since the last Basecamp, Trimble made it clear that they're committed to enabling plugin authors.
Think of the Apple App store or Google Play and the thousands of options available on your smartphone...now bring that same environment, energy, and excitement to create the next big thing to Sketchup. Sketchup becomes a platform for plugin devs to launch apps that allow the rest of us to make awesome stuff.
I'm all for letting the team know what we want...we've been demanding a better plugin system for years, and now we have it. I'm delighted! Sure there's room for improvement - SCF's Plugin Store is better in some ways. So lets tell the team what we want and let them do their job.
If Sketchup isn't working for you, move on! I for one am sick of the endless whining of a few grouches.
And I'm sick of people being sick of people that have real gripes.
This is not a cult!
People have a opinons. Don't like it? Move on yourself!
I mentioned SU printing is like being back on an IBM PC in the 80's and got jumped on also.
This "update sucks"
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What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?
SketchUp Pro commercial licenses never expire, so skipping a year of the program doesn’t affect your use of SketchUp Pro at all. However, if you do decide to skip a year, you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade, maintenance, and support program.
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@chrisc said:
What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?
SketchUp Pro commercial licenses never expire, so skipping a year of the program doesn’t affect your use of SketchUp Pro at all. However, if you do decide to skip a year, you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade, maintenance, and support program.
Do away with the "reinstatement fee" and I think you'd find a lot of people less resistant to the changes (not me, but many others).
Why should such a fee even be necessary in the first place? It is nothing more than a negative "incentive" -- meaning, "since I can't entice you with this crappy carrot, I'll kick you with these spurs to force you to move".
Make a better carrot and we could be going somewhere. Then such negative "incentives" would be redundant.
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@bbrown said:
@marvins_dad said:
For the "Make" version (thinking home) will .stl be available?...mainly doing 3d printing at the house these days.
SketchUp Extension Warehouse
Your library of custom third-party extensions created to optimize your SketchUp workflow.
(extensions.sketchup.com)
grazie!
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@chrisc said:
What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?
SketchUp Pro commercial licenses never expire, so skipping a year of the program doesn’t affect your use of SketchUp Pro at all. However, if you do decide to skip a year, you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade, maintenance, and support program.
I think you're being disingenuous. Continual use of the existing license isn't the question here. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I read in your license agreement - if I don't pay for the upgrade now, when a new upgrade is offered, say in 2014, I will no longer be eligible for the upgrade price, I will have to pay full price. In other words, a one year upgrade cycle.
If this is incorrect you should get on these boards and clarify because that seems to be the common interpretation.
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Maybe this faq is clearer:
http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?
No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.
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@arail1 said:
@chrisc said:
What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?
SketchUp Pro commercial licenses never expire, so skipping a year of the program doesn’t affect your use of SketchUp Pro at all. However, if you do decide to skip a year, you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade, maintenance, and support program.
I think you're being disingenuous. Continual use of the existing license isn't the question here. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I read in your license agreement - if I don't pay for the upgrade now, when a new upgrade is offered, say in 2014, I will no longer be eligible for the upgrade price, I will have to pay full price. In other words, a one year upgrade cycle.
If this is incorrect you should get on these boards and clarify because that seems to be the common interpretation.
It's his or her first post and you call it disingenuous? They said if you don't upgrade there will be a modest fee and I've heard like 3 SU employees say it on these boards in the last 24 hours.
P.S. if you want the ear of the company don't be rude.
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@chrisc said:
Maybe this faq is clearer:
http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?
No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.
Look Chris, I don't know you so this isn't personal -- but how can you say this with a straight face?
I mean really, somehow it is supposed to be OK that you are going to partial bill for an "update" and "support plan" that the user doesn't even get to use? Meaning if you opt to skip, you are still on the hook for part of that money you would have spent had you upgraded now.
Let's be honest here -- where is your (a general shout to Trimble here) pride in your craftsmanship? You create software, if your software is not worth upgrading that is your fault, not the fault of the consumer. You should bear the financial burden of that failure, not the consumer.
[rant] I'll tell you these software companies are really getting quite full of themselves -- do they not notice the open source revolution? All they are doing is pushing people away with these heavy handed tactics to try to compensate for their own lack of quality craftsmanship. [/rant]
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@jpalm32 said:
And I'm sick of people being sick of people that have real gripes.
This is not a cult!
People have a opinons. Don't like it? Move on yourself!
I mentioned SU printing is like being back on an IBM PC in the 80's and got jumped on also.
This "update sucks"
IMO!So why don't you voice your 'real gripes' in a constructive manner? How is your or anybody else's whining helping the situation?
It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.
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@chrisc said:
Maybe this faq is clearer:
http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?
No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.
Yes, you should clarify your FAQ about this. Kridious's comments notwithstanding, the previous posts are confusing two issues - continual use of a license once purchased vs upgrade cycle. I can use my existing AutoCAD license forever but I have to upgrade periodically to meet client expectations. I expect a reasonable amount of time before I'm expected to pay for a full license if I have not previously upgraded - which I take to be about 3 to 5 years in the current software environment. The FAQ you linked to clarifies that I can use my existing license continually without interruption but does not address the issue of upgrade cycle.
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@d12dozr said:
It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.
'Toddler's on a Plane' I don't see that on IMDB....was it good?
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That bad?
Maybe the postman will cheer you up within the next 6 months
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feeling better already
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@d12dozr said:
@jpalm32 said:
And I'm sick of people being sick of people that have real gripes.
This is not a cult!
People have a opinons. Don't like it? Move on yourself!
I mentioned SU printing is like being back on an IBM PC in the 80's and got jumped on also.
This "update sucks"
IMO!So why don't you voice your 'real gripes' in a constructive manner? How is your or anybody else's whining helping the situation?
It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.
I have tried it! Are you reading the comments towards those critical of this "Update"?
So much of gettiing personal, jerk!
Hypocrite.
Did I mention any name or call someone names??
You are what I'm taliking about.
Read your post and defend it please.
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Can someone tell me how I got from the SketchUcation forums to the official Trimble complaints forum!
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@chrisc said:
What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?
...you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade...
oh, why so cryptic?!? Is this a thing that depends on the frame of mind of the sales person? And what is "modest"? $5, $50, $95, $200?? And why is there this "reinstatement fee" at all? Because the support has to search in another list or only to bug customers?
And what happens if i skip two or three updates? A less "modest reinstatement fee"? I can't find anything about it... -
This one looks to be heading to the corner bar soon.
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[mod=Stop the name-calling!:215v4p5w]Enough already! Behave your self and present your critique constructively! Any more personal attacks and name-calling and I'll start waving my moderator wand!
Ye have all been warned! Keep it constructive and polite![/mod:215v4p5w]
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