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    • bmikeB Offline
      bmike
      last edited by

      this is great utiler, similar to where i've been headed, as i find the scrapbook useless.
      i have 1 page setup with my layers, and on each side of the drawing i have common text, dimensions, etc.
      i have not added fills or other specifics, but your page gives me some ideas.

      i too used to have 3-4 common pages in my template, i now only have 1, which i duplicate as i go through.

      mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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      • utilerU Offline
        utiler
        last edited by

        Thanks guy, glad you find it interesting.

        @pbacot - elevations from scratch in LO must be laborious!!!! You really need to bring in scenes from SU and automate... my layer setup is pretty simple:

        layers.png

        @frederik - happy to share, mate! The only thing you'll find is that your system will replace text style as I have a custom typeface for my work. I'll just delete my titleblock:

        utileTemplate-A3L.layout

        @porch_unplugged - cheers!!

        @ArCAD-UK - really, there should be two types of eyedropper samplers; one being purely 'select this and match that' and the other being a sampler that is a 'match @ go' type tool.
        Say you want to write text and you have notes already in the screen that contain all the attributes you want. Rather than my workaround of sampling the text, cancel and then select the text tool [making sure you've gone and changes layer manually, aaggghhhhhh!!!] the 'match & go tool would adopt all the layer, text type, colour, etc info from the text you click on and put you in the text routine ready to select you start point.
        Same applies for drawing a line; sample a line of the same attributes, 'match & go' then start drawing!!

        BTW, I have requested this for future releases to the powers that be.

        @bmike - thanks mate. Yes, the idea of scrapbook is neat but really needs an overhaul!

        ๐Ÿ‘

        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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        • pbacotP Offline
          pbacot
          last edited by

          Thanks for the layer setup.

          I mean that I do the model in SU. But for every project I have to set up the ortho views (use command 3, 4 etc, change to parallel projection, save scenes). Then in Layout import and arrange on a page. Add the titles etc.

          I am thinking what if you have a special elevations SU file that is ready for your model. You bring the model in from the main file, place it in the right place. The scenes are already set up and already linked to arranged windows in a LO file. Perhaps you need to adjust each time for the different sized buildings....

          Your match idea is like a CAD tool I have (you might too). Actually you can choose what attributes to match, linetype layer etc. I usually match all. It can apply these to a group or individual objects (per preset) or apply (the style attributes)to a tool.

          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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          • utilerU Offline
            utiler
            last edited by

            I see, my bad...

            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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            • bmikeB Offline
              bmike
              last edited by

              @pbacot said:

              I am thinking what if you have a special elevations SU file that is ready for your model. You bring the model in from the main file, place it in the right place. The scenes are already set up and already linked to arranged windows in a LO file. Perhaps you need to adjust each time for the different sized buildings....

              I do this for sales proposals. I take a model and copy and paste it into a SketchUp file named 'sales' with views setup. Then I open a LayOut file that is already keyed to that model. When I'm done I do a save as of each to the company or client folder.

              I do have to tweak scenes a bit sometimes, or zoom in or out. But it speeds things up a bit. I then export to PDF and combine that with a proposal generated in a word processor.

              This works pretty well for projects that are all a similar size. (House size for me). I tried it with a few production sets of drawings but it was too much of a hassle to get the section cuts an layering right, as there is usually enough variation from one project to the next.

              mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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              • FrederikF Offline
                Frederik
                last edited by

                Thank you SO MUCH for sharing, Utiler...! ๐Ÿ‘

                Cheers
                Kim Frederik

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                • J Offline
                  JuanV.Soler
                  last edited by

                  That is a great help , thanks utiler

                  ,))),

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                  • utilerU Offline
                    utiler
                    last edited by

                    No worries guys, glad to help.... ๐Ÿ‘

                    purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                    • RichardR Offline
                      Richard
                      last edited by

                      Nice stuff Andrew!!

                      This certainly does highlight some of the issues with scrapbook and layout in general. I'm not sure if you have ever used indesign? But the ability to handle styles is one of it's strengths. I'd be loving that sort of functionality to be introduced to Layout, so anything assigned a "style" can be updated globally! EG all text in a document can be changed to another font!

                      [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                      • T Offline
                        tim
                        last edited by

                        Just for fun and maybe for the benefit of those of use that live in non-metricland, I reworked utiler's template for 36x24" sheet with 1:12/24/48 scales, imperial dimension stuff etc.

                        With your permission, may upload it here?

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                        • utilerU Offline
                          utiler
                          last edited by

                          Sure Tim, go for your life!

                          Never use InDesign, Rich although I know you have referred to its strengths in the past; just wish I had time to go surfing and trialing new stuff...

                          ๐Ÿ‘

                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                          • RichardR Offline
                            Richard
                            last edited by

                            Beers NEXT WEEK mate! Really looking forward to it!

                            [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                            • utilerU Offline
                              utiler
                              last edited by

                              You bet! I was just thinking about that last night.... ๐ŸŽ‰

                              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                              • emerald15E Offline
                                emerald15
                                last edited by

                                I've not thought of working this way before - definitely going to try it. Many thanks for sharing the template.

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                                • dcauldwellD Offline
                                  dcauldwell
                                  last edited by

                                  I have been using a similar Layout set-up, including copying sheet one once I've added job title etc to avoid having to keep copying it. However your is so neat, comprehensive and organised, I just had to download it and give it a try.
                                  Thanks for generously sharing. Cheers.

                                  Sketchup 2017
                                  (vray 2.00)

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                                  • zx10r_GazZ Offline
                                    zx10r_Gaz
                                    last edited by

                                    @utiler said:

                                    ๐Ÿ‘

                                    Nice work around, I can see the benefits immediately.

                                    Thanks for sharing.

                                    Gaz...

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                                    • utilerU Offline
                                      utiler
                                      last edited by

                                      No problem, guys, happy you find it helpful.... ๐Ÿ‘

                                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                      • C Offline
                                        compostbrainius
                                        last edited by

                                        what are the little red arrows in the template for and how do you get rid of them? Thanks for the template!

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                                        • utilerU Offline
                                          utiler
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Joel, if you're referring to red arrows around text it will be because I use a custom typeface that you won't have on your computer. What happens if you open a file that contains a typeface you don't have it loads a default which will no doubt have different size, scale, etc properties..

                                          You'll need to select the text where you see a red arrow, go to your text editor and click unbounded....


                                          2013-03-28_0827.png

                                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                          • T Offline
                                            tim
                                            last edited by

                                            Whoops, forgot to upload;
                                            Tim's version of utiler's template; 36x24" etc

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