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      archturn
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      @dave r said:

      My preference would be to make a component from the git go and make the copies. Make Unique is a trivial thing when it comes to that. For a model such as yours, starting with components makes it easier to see how the whole thing is developing as you edit. If something isn't going the way you expect, the earlier you figure that out, the easier it is to back up and fix it.

      i started to write more about using components instead of groups but I won't get on my soapbox about that now. πŸ˜‰ I'll just say I have never once in more than 9 years of using SketchUp found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

      Got it, will do
      Thanks

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        Dave R
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        Gilles version of your model illustrates very clearly the reduction in file size that I mentioned earlier. πŸ˜‰

        And even 100 of them is only 820 Kb. That's a couple of hours of production in your shop, right?


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          @gilles said:

          Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

          Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
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            @unknownuser said:

            @unknownuser said:

            found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

            You have some plugins who works only with groups! πŸ˜‰

            You're right. And when I use them I wind up converting the groups to components. I'd be happier if a component was just created by the plugin.

            I haven't found a need to use any plugins that only work on groups.

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              archturn
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              @dave r said:

              Gilles version of your model illustrates very clearly the reduction in file size that I mentioned earlier. πŸ˜‰

              And even 100 of them is only 820 Kb. That's a couple of hours of production in your shop, right?

              Wish I could make them that fast. I missing something - would like to know your work flow on the spiral

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                Dave R
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                I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

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                  @unknownuser said:

                  found a situation where a group made more sense than a component.

                  You have some plugins who works only with groups! πŸ˜‰

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                    @dave r said:

                    I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                    Dave
                    That'd be great!!

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      and here for example after explode the original component for paint each faces
                      I don't need to make a component again, but just a group! πŸ˜‰

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                        Dave R
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                        @archturn said:

                        @dave r said:

                        I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                        Dave
                        That'd be great!!

                        Maybe a live demo this weekend?

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                          @dave r said:

                          @archturn said:

                          @dave r said:

                          I'd be happy to show you. I can't do it at the moment, though. Maybe another live demo with you or I'll make a video.

                          Dave
                          That'd be great!!

                          Maybe a live demo this weekend?

                          Sounds good

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                            dale
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                            I just want to thank you all for this thread. It has been a great learning experience. πŸ‘

                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                              @archturn said:

                              @gilles said:

                              Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                              Looks better than mine. So you redid the spiral?

                              No I did not, its your model where I cut part of geometries to make components πŸ˜„

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                                I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

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                                  gilles
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                                  Yes we can!

                                  huhu couldn't resist.

                                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                    @pbacot said:

                                    This thread is hot! Another point I would make is with screw.rb one can then make a component of spiral section that would stack directly beneath the other (without turning) and so you could increase, vary the height (within a module) easily.

                                    I assume that can be done with Gilles' version.

                                    If I understand you right this is one method I used - I made a 2 1/2" profile (the profile of my barley twist router cutter) then used the screw plugin to make a 5" high one revolution spiral. I grouped it, then copied and stacked it on top the other spiral. I then selected those to array the rest of the way.

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                                      That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.

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                                        @dave r said:

                                        That's pretty much it but use a component instead of a group.
                                        Still not sure why there is such a difference in file size

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                                          I believe it's quasi the same size maybe a little less for the group because there is less informations inside no Glue etc..., but same info as pure geometry.

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                                            gilles
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                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            illes wrote:
                                            Here is your model with some corrections and the use of components,note it is 650Kb instead of 1950.

                                            Isn't it a big difference?
                                            Also modifying all instances at once.
                                            Create libraries for further use in other models.

                                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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