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      archturn
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      I'm looking for a way to model my stair newels in Sketchup. The attached barley twisted newel was made in my CAD program but I am hoping for a method to do the same in Sketchup. Would appreciate any help.


      N112_LRG.png

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      • jeff hammondJ
        jeff hammond
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        do you mind giving a little background first? what's your current sketchup level? are you ok with using plugins or would you prefer to do it using native sketchup tools?

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          archturn
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          I'm probably an intermediate user. I'm fine with using plugins. I've looked in vain though to find one that will help

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          • Dave RD
            Dave R
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            This shows how I do them. And a couple of examples.


            http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3400/4632041011_06f915b614.jpg


            http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4020/4653175758_1c8f0707f8.jpg

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            • pbacotP
              pbacot
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              screw.rb can make this pretty well and fast. But I bet the geometry created by Dave's method would be nicer.

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • gillesG
                gilles
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                @pbacot said:

                screw.rb can make this pretty well and fast. But I bet the geometry created by Dave's method would be nicer.

                ❓

                There is no reason, it depends of how many steps you type in the prompt window.

                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                • gillesG
                  gilles
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                  Made in one shot with screw1_5.rb.

                  AND it works also with components.


                  Screw.png

                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                  • Dave RD
                    Dave R
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                    Gilles, yours shows a nice spiral or screw but that's not a barley twist. The barley twist consists of multiple starts. It is possible to make the barley twist with Screw, though.
                    barley.png
                    This is a three-start barley twist.

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                    • pilouP
                      pilou
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                      the new classic πŸ˜‰

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • gillesG
                        gilles
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                        Sorry Dave, there are two starts and I could have done n starts in one shot.

                        OFF TOPIC

                        components plus profiles in one shot:


                        Screw#2.png

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                        • Dave RD
                          Dave R
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                          Pilou, you trot that video out every time someone asks how to draw anything. πŸ˜’ πŸ˜†

                          That's not a barley twist either.

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                          • Dave RD
                            Dave R
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                            @gilles said:

                            Sorry Dave, there are two starts and I could have done n starts in one shot.

                            Show the setup. And which version of Screw are you using.

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                            • gillesG
                              gilles
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                              screw1_5.rb.

                              select 3 profiles (in the following case), set start point, set end point, enter n steps n turn and go.


                              3entry.png

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                              • Dave RD
                                Dave R
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                                Thanks. that should help the OP.

                                Isn't it great there are usually multiple ways to arrive at the same point in SketchUp?

                                And you finally drew a barley twist. πŸ˜‰ Here's a cutter profile for that.

                                http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31uqkUSlwNL.jpg

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                                  Gaieus
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                                  @dave r said:

                                  Pilou, you trot that video out every time someone asks how to draw anything. πŸ˜’ πŸ˜†

                                  That's not a barley twist either.

                                  True but otherwise a brilliant solution!

                                  (I could imagine Kito Raupp is Pilou himself in a humble disguise)
                                  πŸ˜†

                                  Gai...

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                                  • gillesG
                                    gilles
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                                    Here is a step by step.


                                    profile


                                    follow me around the circle


                                    erase unwanted


                                    intersect


                                    erase unwanted


                                    select the two profiles (center must be on blue axis at origin) run screw plugin


                                    cut  unwanted whit zorro plugin


                                    intersect


                                    erase unwanted

                                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                      archturn
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                                      @gilles said:

                                      Made in one shot with screw1_5.rb.

                                      AND it works also with components.

                                      This is what we call a rope twist not a barley twist. The barley twist has another (interior) radius. The rope twist looks like rope - though your method may work for a barley twist as well. David R's is definitely a barley

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                                      • Dave RD
                                        Dave R
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                                        @gilles said:

                                        Here is a step by step.

                                        Nice rope twist. πŸ˜‰

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                                          archturn
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                                          Dave R
                                          Love your solution but I need to fit it to the other part of my newel. Gilles method looks like it will work. In CAD I'll usually do a sweep of the newel profile then draw my barley twist profile - sweep the barley profile with the correct pitch then subtract it from my newel sweep. I wish I could do it this way (specifically the subtract function) in SU since this yields the most realistic geometry - though again Gilles looks pretty right (just needs more interior radius to be classified as a true barley twist). Thanks

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                                          • gillesG
                                            gilles
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                                            Its up to you to create the good profile. πŸ’š

                                            You can also do this with screw:


                                            conic.png

                                            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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