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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
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      This shows how I do them. And a couple of examples.


      http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3400/4632041011_06f915b614.jpg


      http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4020/4653175758_1c8f0707f8.jpg

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      • pbacotP Offline
        pbacot
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        screw.rb can make this pretty well and fast. But I bet the geometry created by Dave's method would be nicer.

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        • gillesG Offline
          gilles
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          @pbacot said:

          screw.rb can make this pretty well and fast. But I bet the geometry created by Dave's method would be nicer.

          ❓

          There is no reason, it depends of how many steps you type in the prompt window.

          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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          • gillesG Offline
            gilles
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            Made in one shot with screw1_5.rb.

            AND it works also with components.


            Screw.png

            " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
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              Gilles, yours shows a nice spiral or screw but that's not a barley twist. The barley twist consists of multiple starts. It is possible to make the barley twist with Screw, though.
              barley.png
              This is a three-start barley twist.

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                the new classic πŸ˜‰

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                • gillesG Offline
                  gilles
                  last edited by

                  Sorry Dave, there are two starts and I could have done n starts in one shot.

                  OFF TOPIC

                  components plus profiles in one shot:


                  Screw#2.png

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Pilou, you trot that video out every time someone asks how to draw anything. πŸ˜’ πŸ˜†

                    That's not a barley twist either.

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      @gilles said:

                      Sorry Dave, there are two starts and I could have done n starts in one shot.

                      Show the setup. And which version of Screw are you using.

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                      • gillesG Offline
                        gilles
                        last edited by

                        screw1_5.rb.

                        select 3 profiles (in the following case), set start point, set end point, enter n steps n turn and go.


                        3entry.png

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Thanks. that should help the OP.

                          Isn't it great there are usually multiple ways to arrive at the same point in SketchUp?

                          And you finally drew a barley twist. πŸ˜‰ Here's a cutter profile for that.

                          http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31uqkUSlwNL.jpg

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
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                            @dave r said:

                            Pilou, you trot that video out every time someone asks how to draw anything. πŸ˜’ πŸ˜†

                            That's not a barley twist either.

                            True but otherwise a brilliant solution!

                            (I could imagine Kito Raupp is Pilou himself in a humble disguise)
                            πŸ˜†

                            Gai...

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                            • gillesG Offline
                              gilles
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                              Here is a step by step.


                              profile


                              follow me around the circle


                              erase unwanted


                              intersect


                              erase unwanted


                              select the two profiles (center must be on blue axis at origin) run screw plugin


                              cut  unwanted whit zorro plugin


                              intersect


                              erase unwanted

                              " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                archturn
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                                @gilles said:

                                Made in one shot with screw1_5.rb.

                                AND it works also with components.

                                This is what we call a rope twist not a barley twist. The barley twist has another (interior) radius. The rope twist looks like rope - though your method may work for a barley twist as well. David R's is definitely a barley

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  @gilles said:

                                  Here is a step by step.

                                  Nice rope twist. πŸ˜‰

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                                    archturn
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                                    Dave R
                                    Love your solution but I need to fit it to the other part of my newel. Gilles method looks like it will work. In CAD I'll usually do a sweep of the newel profile then draw my barley twist profile - sweep the barley profile with the correct pitch then subtract it from my newel sweep. I wish I could do it this way (specifically the subtract function) in SU since this yields the most realistic geometry - though again Gilles looks pretty right (just needs more interior radius to be classified as a true barley twist). Thanks

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                                    • gillesG Offline
                                      gilles
                                      last edited by

                                      Its up to you to create the good profile. πŸ’š

                                      You can also do this with screw:


                                      conic.png

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        archturn, you could use the method I showed and create the transitions when you've finished. There isn't any reason you couldn't fit it to the rest of the turning. I did on the table legs. The transitions are similar to creating the pommels which I've showed in several other blog posts so I didn't bother with them in that one. The Screw plugin is nice, too. although you can do multiple starts the way Gilles shows, I would still make a single turn as a component and copy it as I did in the blog to keep file size down and make it easier to adjust the length.

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                                        • gillesG Offline
                                          gilles
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                                          @dave r said:

                                          archturn, you could use the method I showed and create the transitions when you've finished. There isn't any reason you couldn't fit it to the rest of the turning. I did on the table legs. The transitions are similar to creating the pommels which I've showed in several other blog posts so I didn't bother with them in that one. The Screw plugin is nice, too. although you can do multiple starts the way Gilles shows, I would still make a single turn as a component and copy it as I did in the blog to keep file size down and make it easier to adjust the length.

                                          Totally agree with this. πŸ‘

                                          " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                          • charly2008C Offline
                                            charly2008
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                                            Hi,
                                            here are two more options


                                            1.jpg


                                            3.jpg


                                            2.jpg

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