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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      @hellnbak said:

      Thanks, but I've decided to stick with Kerkythea. Maybe after (if) I figure that one out I will try some others, but my old brain can only support so much right now.

      You could still try Twilight. It is Kerkythea based - in fact, once you set up your scene, materials etc. you can export it into Kerkythea (only with the full, paid version though - but $99 is not a huge sum) and examine how the materials are set up for instance. I have learnt a lot doing this actually.

      Gai...

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      • davids90gtD Offline
        davids90gt
        last edited by

        I am definitely interested in taking you up on your offer. I'll PM you with some more details.

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        • M Offline
          mwm5053
          last edited by

          I haven't posted these till now because I don't think they are as good as most that I see in the gallery they where me learning KT


          1ac.jpg


          RR House.jpg

          2011 iMac
          SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
          V2 Twilight
          macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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          • J Offline
            jpalm32
            last edited by

            Wow! Been waitin for your cars in a old station. Nice start.
            I have a suggestion. Others here might not agree but I suggest Twilight.
            It is the little brother of Kerkythea.
            They are deveolped by the same team once . Twilight is very easy & powerful. The best part you can send files to Kerlythea and use all Kerkythea textures.
            Te leaning curve is short, great tute and you can leverage that knowledge as you p[rogress.

            Seen some great work by people on this site. Just learning myself.
            Remember some nice work by Solo way back.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              And there is a friendly forum! ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
                last edited by

                Ok, you guys have got me curious about Twilight. I've downloaded the manual, will study it today. One thing that concerns me a bit, in their "gallery", they show only one example of a car (and to be perfectly honest it looks only average). If I ever do learn how to render I want something that is going to do a good job on cars, not just architecture. Any thoughts there?

                Any opinions on Podium?

                I'm getting a headache.

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • soloS Offline
                  solo
                  last edited by

                  I'd suggest Thea personally.

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                  • hellnbakH Offline
                    hellnbak
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                    @solo said:

                    I'd suggest Thea personally.

                    I can't find the price anywhere on their site, and that scares me. Seems if it was a good price they would display it prominently, or at least make it easy to find.

                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                    • massimoM Offline
                      massimo Moderator
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                      Steve, click on e-Shop button on upper right of the home page.

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                      • massimoM Offline
                        massimo Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Pilou, those are โ‚ฌ and not $. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                        • hellnbakH Offline
                          hellnbak
                          last edited by

                          @massimo said:

                          Pilou, those are โ‚ฌ and not $. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Yeah, and we're talking almost 400 of those dollars ๐Ÿ˜ฎ . Way too much for someone who doesn't even know if he will ever be able to use it.

                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            http://thearender.com/cms/index.php/plugins/thea-for-sketchup.html 320โ‚ฌ ๐Ÿ˜‰
                            Standalone 295โ‚ฌ

                            but have also a challenger Octane ๐Ÿ˜‰ 199 โ‚ฌ
                            http://render.otoy.com/index.php they have a gallery Vehicles ๐Ÿ˜„
                            but Octane Render requires a CUDA enabled NVIDIA video card. ๐Ÿค“

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
                              last edited by

                              Where do you get the "standalone" price for Thea ?(site confuses me-as do their offerings)

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • massimoM Offline
                                massimo Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @massimo said:

                                Steve, click on e-Shop button on upper right of the home page.

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Click the red Button E-SHOP up right corner page ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                  on you arrive here ๐Ÿ’š
                                  http://www.thearender.com/cms/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=1&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

                                  and aaaaaaaah ๐Ÿ˜ž

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  VAT (23%) will be added only for EU private customers during checkout.

                                  And Massimo was more speedy ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    Corrected ๐Ÿ˜ณ but don't know
                                    if price is with or without VAT !

                                    320 $ = 424 $
                                    295 $ = 390 $

                                    199$ = 264 $

                                    edit for Thea

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    VAT (23%) will be added only for EU private customers during checkout.

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • pbacotP Offline
                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks Pilou

                                      Ouch "VAT". I hope you people are getting what you want from this EU business.
                                      Still confused. I don't see a standalone there. I DL the demo and it seemed I needed to get the (32 bit) studio demo to operate. But I will go to Thea for my queries. I tried registering there but couldn't get on the forum, then got busy with other things.

                                      Oh but let's get back to the topic!

                                      Steve are you getting anywhere with this?

                                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      • hellnbakH Offline
                                        hellnbak
                                        last edited by

                                        @pbacot said:

                                        [offtopic] Steve are you getting anywhere with this?

                                        I'm trying very hard to make a halfway intelligent decision, and right now I'm leaning towards Kerkythea. In a large part this is based on the following numbers --

                                        a.png

                                        A program's forums are very important to me. If the forums here were diminished by two-thirds I can't imagine them being nearly as helpful as they are now.

                                        Maybe there's a flaw in my logic, or maybe there are factors that outweigh the importance I place on forums, if so please let me know.

                                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                        • Rich O BrienR Online
                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          With both Twilight and Thea there is an unlimited trial so no need to spend cash while learning both.

                                          When you decide which to go with you'll be making the best investment ever.

                                          As regards post counts..... ๐Ÿ˜•

                                          If SU was not Free I imagine there'd be 6 people here having a natter and not thousands.

                                          As regards learning this dark art....

                                          Did you get anyone to help you out yet?

                                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                                          • dereiD Offline
                                            derei
                                            last edited by

                                            @hellnbak said:

                                            @pbacot said:

                                            [offtopic] Steve are you getting anywhere with this?

                                            I'm trying very hard to make a halfway intelligent decision, and right now I'm leaning towards Kerkythea. In a large part this is based on the following numbers --

                                            [attachment=0:vs9xpzk9]<!-- ia0 -->a.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:vs9xpzk9]

                                            A program's forums are very important to me. If the forums here were diminished by two-thirds I can't imagine them being nearly as helpful as they are now.

                                            Maybe there's a flaw in my logic, or maybe there are factors that outweigh the importance I place on forums, if so please let me know.

                                            As you may probably know, Kerkythea and Twilight share same rendering engine... the main difference is the User Interface and the complexity of settings.
                                            Kerkythea allows you to more complex settings, material properties, but its interface is nothing but friendly and the material editor is even worse, on the other hand it can handle x64 CPU's and last version has a great rendering speed improvement in comparison with Twilight.
                                            Twilight's interface is less complex, but can make competitive materials for common use. The main advantage of twilight is its ease and the speed of use. Also, if you have a paid license, you can export as XML and benefit of Kerkythea's rendering speed.

                                            If you don't need really complex materials, Twilight will serve you well (especially if you make the final render using KT)... but in the end, the decision must be all yours.

                                            Also, statistics don't get always the best results... you will not need answers from 8000 members, but only one... if it's the answer you seek. So, in theory, a forum with one member will be as good as one with 8000 ๐Ÿ˜„

                                            Good Luck!

                                            DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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