Can you get a list of OSX fonts somehow?

TIG

But the surely surrounding ` ``` '' "" etc can produce different results ??
So... are they all foobar?

My other example tried to force it to run as a 'bash' shell... Is that possible?

Not having a MAC available does somewhat curtail my help in this area

Jim

@thomthom said:

the commands work in native consoles, but not in in SketchUp console

Maybe they are using stderr instead of stdout? You could test on the command line:

fc-list : family > out fc-list : family 2> err

thomthom

@tig said:

But the surely surrounding ` ``` '' "" etc can produce different results ??
So... are they all foobar?

My other example tried to force it to run as a 'bash' shell... Is that possible?

They all return false.

thomthom

@jim said:

Maybe they are using stderr instead of stdout? You could test on the command line:

fc-list : family > out fc-list : family 2> err

nada

thomthom

Tried to output to file:

fc-list : family >> ~/Desktop/fonts.txt

Empty when run from within SketchUp, populated when run in a native console.

Something is messed up with the messaging system!

TIG

system(fc-list : family | out) ?
running out of permutations...

thomthom

Won't that just list fonts with "out" in them?

TIG

The 'grep' is for pattern matching...
The | pipes/passes the output to something else ['out'].
What do you call the 'output' on a MAC ??
The > puts the output into a file.
The >> appends the output to a file.
How do you 'pass/send' something ?

driven

TT
what osx are you running.
'shell' change to AT&T version with 10.5 , so the syntax needs to be checked

FontBook has had lots of revisions/additions
and those osascripts run it in the background, take miliseconds on my mac.

the nice thing is people could set a 'SU 3D Font Collection in fontbook and you can allow them to use just those
john

thomthom

@driven said:

what osx are you running.

10.5

@driven said:

'shell' change to AT&T version with 10.5 , so the syntax needs to be checked
But it works in the system console, and it works from IRB calling system command - but not from SketchUp calling system command.

@driven said:

FontBook has had lots of revisions/additions
and those osascripts run it in the background, take miliseconds on my mac.

Mine took a noticeable lag the first time I ran it, but quick the next runs. And Font Book's icon appeared in the dock.

driven

@thomthom said:

But it works in the system console, and it works from IRB calling system command - but not from SketchUp calling system command.

it is possible to get an output to Ruby Console using echo <dev/nul, but I need to dig thru for a working example..

@unknownuser said:

Mine took a noticeable lag the first time I ran it, but quick the next runs. And Font Book's icon appeared in the dock.

I think I would run only once, hold the list in the plugin, but add an update function/item for people who add fonts to FontBook [very few]...
added to the end of the osascript should close it after use -e 'tell application "Font Book" to quit' -e 'end'
john

driven

I've been trying loads of different ways to get the exact font list that SU shows under 'Window' >> 'Show Fonts' all 297 on my mac, this is by far the easiest

macFonts=[]
macFonts=(`osascript -e 'tell application "Font Book" to set macFonts to name of every font family'`).split(",").uniq.each {|a| a.strip! if a.respond_to? ;strip! }.sort
quitFontBook=(`osascript -e 'tell application "Font Book" to quit'`)
 if macFonts.length > 1
 then quitFontBook
 end
macFonts.length

john

thomthom

I'll try it on my mac

driven

@thomthom said:

I'll try it on my mac

when you do...
For seeing if they all will work from code, I've been trying to make a '3d Font Sampler' using the 'macFont' array for both the 'string' and 'font' and the index number for 'z' position, but I keep screwing it up... could you cobble something together? or pointers...

another way to get the SU Font List, but not in ruby

tell application "Sketchup"
	activate
end tell

tell application "System Events"
	
	if UI elements enabled then
		tell process "SketchUp"
			click the menu "Window" of menu bar 1
			delay 1
			click menu item "Show Fonts" of menu "Window" of menu bar 1
			delay 1
			
			tell window "Fonts"
				
				set results to value of text field 1 of every row of table 1 of scroll area 3
				delay 1
				
			end tell
		end tell
		tell application "System Events"
			tell process "SketchUp"
				click the menu "Window" of menu bar 1
				delay 1
				click menu item "Hide Fonts" of menu "Window" of menu bar 1
				delay 1
				return results
			end tell
		end tell
	else
		tell application "System Preferences"
			activate
			set current pane to pane "com.apple.preference.universalaccess"
			display dialog "UI element scripting is not enabled. Check \"Enable access for assistive devices\""
		end tell
	end if
end tell

driven

I managed to get a list to manually test all the fonts [via copy/paste]... they all work
but I can't work out how I can have each as a group, or how even how to get SU to just make them...

macFonts.each_with_index do |item, index|
puts %(Sketchup.active_model.entities.add_3d_text("#{item}" , TextAlignCenter, "#{item}" , true, false, 1.0, 0.0, #{index}, true, 0.05))
end

works as a puts which I can copy/paste in batches to make, but fails as a direct method

macFonts.each_with_index do |item, index|
Sketchup.active_model.entities.add_3d_text("#{item}" , TextAlignCenter, "#{item}" , true, false, 1.0, 0.0, #{index}, true, 0.05)
end

...why???
john

Dan Rathbun

Oh it's just a head-smackin' boo-boo.
The z arg takes a Numeric and the index is already a Numeric subclass ( Integer,)
so you do not use the #{ ... } string replacement syntax.
(But you don't want to stack them vertically, move them -Y so they are all in a column (see below.)

Another quirk about add_3d_text(), is that unlike the OEM tool, the Ruby method does not put the primitives into a group.

So we encourage you to create group(s) then call the method on the group's Entities collection:

macFonts.each_with_index do |item, index|

  grp = Sketchup.active_model.entities.add_group()
  grp.entities.add_3d_text( "#{item}", TextAlignCenter, "#{item}",
    true, false, 1.0, 0.0, 0.0, true, 0.05 )
  grp.name= item
  grp.move!( Geom;;Transformation.new(Geom;;Vector3d.new(0,-index,0)) )
  
end

driven

cheers dan,
This is a one off, so dosen't really matter, but out of curiousity
as both 3DText and Group generation can lock up the mac, how can I split this into a batch mode, so SU makes first 12, then next 12, then next 12, etc... but still uses the original index for position.
Could I need to make a hash using -index%(:#{item}) then split into new arrays of hashes with max items(12), then process those, I was looking at

macFonts.each_with_index do |item, index|
 puts %(#{item}, #{index}).to_a
 end

and then


# use as array.chunk
class Array
  def chunk(pieces=2)
    len = self.length;
    mid = (len/pieces)
    chunks = []
    start = 0
    1.upto(pieces) do |i|
      last = start+mid
      last = last-1 unless len%pieces >= i
      chunks << self[start..last] || []
      start = last+1
    end
    chunks
  end
end

then

macFonts.chunk 12

then process those, but I do get lost... john

driven

Hi dan,

@unknownuser said:

It is very bad to modify base classes. (spanky spanky)

it a one off, and the stand alone version was more complex for me to use...

# use as standalone function
def chunk_array(array, pieces=2)
  len = array.length;
  mid = (len/pieces)
  chunks = []
  start = 0
  1.upto(pieces) do |i|
    last = start+mid
    last = last-1 unless len%pieces >= i
    chunks << array[start..last] || []
    start = last+1
  end
  chunks
end

I also do most my testing in a separate version of SU with Pluggins turned off, and often check if methods are defined already first...

that works at the about the same speed as the first, not too slow, considering there are 297 fonts.

what i was musing, was, is there a way to have SU make one, return true, make next, return true, then next, etc...
so each operation is a single font... To see if that's actually faster or not. In theory it should be slower, but SU appears to bog down exponentially when I do them manually in sets of 6 V 12 V 18 V 24, and over 24 takes longer to run then the whole lot from either of your scripts.

Another mac 3D Font oddity I have noticed:

when using the native tool, I can make "" as 3D text,
which should be the apple icon although it may show as the windows icon on yours.

If I use code to try and generate the 2D Text (from console or a webdialog) although I see 'it' in the input window, I get some bizarre encoded string.

cheers again
john

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

what i was musing, was, is there a way to have SU make one, return true, make next, return true, then next, etc... so each operation is a single font...

Set chunk = 1

@driven said:

..., but SU appears to bog down exponentially when I do them manually in sets of 6 V 12 V 18 V 24, and over 24 takes longer to run then the whole lot from either of your scripts.

It's a caveat of using high quality. A lot of primitives are going onto the undo stack.
The higher the number of elements in the model, the slower things get.
I think we already tried saving the model between operations (to clear the undo stack,) BUT tests showed it did not speed things up.

@driven said:

... when using the native tool, I can make "" as 3D text,
which should be the apple icon although it may show as the windows icon on yours.

If I use code to try and generate the 2D Text (from console or a webdialog) although I see 'it' in the input window, I get some bizarre encoded string.

It could be a unicode UTF16 codepoint. Ruby is UTF8.

There are sometimes tricks you can do with Array.pack and String.unpack.

Code-wise, try to save .rb files in "UTF8 (without BOM)" aka "ANSI as UTF8" encoding. I don't know what your Mac code editor calls it, but that's what Notepad++ does.

driven

@dan rathbun said:

It could be a unicode UTF16 codepoint. Ruby is UTF8.

I often use them as puts on mac only scripts to remind me it won't work on a PC, they show up in console returns, so that side is ok, also I can make 3D Text versions with the native tool (which I thought was based on Todd's 3D TextTool ruby)
WebDialogs are UTF8 as well and they show up htere in most fonts [some don't have the charset]

@unknownuser said:

There are sometimes tricks you can do with Array.pack and String.unpack.

I looked into .encode to see if I could add a conditional to make one from code, i'll look into .pack... cheers

@unknownuser said:

Code-wise, try to save .rb files in "UTF8 (without BOM)" aka "ANSI as UTF8" encoding. I don't know what your Mac code editor calls it, but that's what Notepad++ does.

everything 'ruby' on the mac is "UTF8 (without BOM)" with unix line endings, even 'pasteBoard', 'Terminal' and 'Applescript editor' are since OSX 10.5.

It's only some downloaded rubies that need changing, although if it's just line endings any will work in SU.
john